On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 5:06:34 PM UTC+1, John H Palmieri wrote:
>
> +1.
>
> For those who disagree, please recognize that the current situation is 
> unmanageable: there are interdependencies between sage and sagenb, so 
> certain changes in sage require changes in sagenb. Getting those changes 
> done in sagenb is difficult, because sagenb is not really actively 
> maintained.
>

Could you perhaps point out at these?
Are there any issues/pull requests on sagenb related to such changes?

 

> So if you disagree, please suggest a concrete alternative, because (as 
> Jeroen says) the status quo is not working.
>
>   John
>
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 1:44:22 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>
>> Hello all, 
>>
>> I propose to make SageNB no longer a separate package but to move it 
>> back into the Sage git tree. For purposes of installation and use of 
>> SageNB, it will still be a separate Python package, but the sources will 
>> be in $SAGE_ROOT/src/sagenb instead of a separate git repo. The changes 
>> to the Sage build system to support this move will be minimal. 
>>
>> The reason is that SageNB is truly in maintenance mode currently. Making 
>> new SageNB releases regularly to fix things is a burden for the SageNB 
>> release manager Karl-Dieter Crisman. On #14840 [1], he said "the sooner 
>> sagenb gets back in Sage proper, the better!" 
>>
>> The original reason to split SageNB from Sage was to enable quick 
>> development. That worked for a while, but now that development has 
>> stalled, this reason no longer applies. A secondary reason was to make 
>> SageNB truly independent from Sage, but that also never happened. So I 
>> see no reason to keep SageNB split from Sage currently. 
>>
>> I know this is a controversial proposal, but it will certainly be easier 
>> to maintain SageNB this way. I also want to stress that this is 
>> orthogonal to any future deprecation or removal of SageNB: we can still 
>> do that from the Sage git tree. 
>>
>> Jeroen. 
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/14840#comment:58 
>>
>

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