Le jeudi 27 octobre 2016 16:59:02 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit :
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> On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 4:49:23 PM UTC+2, Emmanuel Charpentier 
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>> Le jeudi 27 octobre 2016 16:04:52 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit :
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>>> On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 3:59:26 PM UTC+2, Emmanuel Charpentier 
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>>>> Le jeudi 27 octobre 2016 13:10:17 UTC+2, François a écrit :
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>>>>> It is a most interesting point because it explain why 
>>>>> the R binary installed from epel for RH7.1 and family 
>>>>> isn’t linked to openssl. 
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>>>> How old is RH7.1 ? The introduction of the libcurl requirement dates 
>>>> from the R 3.3.0 release, (May 3, 2016).
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>>>> I note that Debian (notoriously twitchy about license issues) didn't 
>>>> seem to have any qualms packaging 3.3.0, nor 3.3.1. 
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>>> I'd say Debian links curl to GnuTLS.
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>> Probably not : My system's curl-config --protocols says that HTTPS: is 
>> supported. A trial of curl's configure --without-ssl --with-gnutls does not 
>> claim to support it (in the summary printed at th end of ./configure...).
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>> Are you sure you  installed the gnutls dev headers?
> GnuTLS provides an SSL implem, not just SSL.
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Yep :
dpkg -l "*tls*" | grep ii
ii  libcurl3-gnutls:amd64     7.50.1-1     amd64        easy-to-use 
client-side URL transfer library (GnuTLS flavour)
ii  libcurl4-gnutls-dev:amd64 7.50.1-1     amd64        development files 
and documentation for libcurl (GnuTLS flavour)

However, on the very same machine :
dpkg -l "*open*ssl*" | grep ii
ii  libgnutls-openssl27:amd64 3.5.5-2      amd64        GNU TLS library - 
OpenSSL wrapper
ii  openssl                   1.0.2j-1     amd64        Secure Sockets 
Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility
ii  python-openssl            16.1.0-1     all          Python 2 wrapper 
around the OpenSSL library

(Don't tell me it's inconsistent; I know it : this machine has been updated 
for 5 years without any reinstallation ; since I follow "testing" a bit 
closely, I tend to accumulate cruft...).

Again, I'm not convinced that a serious test on a clean virtual machine is 
the only way to be sure...)

 
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>> However, I'm not sure : Debian's blurb about libcurl3-gnutls says that it 
>> supports https, imaps, ldaps, smtps and pop3s.
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>> To be sure, I'll have to setup a virtual machine with a minimal 
>> environment (no openssl, of course) and try to setup libcurl (and, if 
>> successful, Sage) in that environment. This is time consuming, so not quite 
>> real soon...
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> You mean with gnutls?
> Or with no ssl/tls at all?
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I mean a pristine machine (Debian gnome + a browser + minimal development 
utilities  + Sage's minimal requirements + gnutls). Given my pipe to the 
net and my (home) machine, that might take a while.

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> I already did the latter and it works (modulo hacking R's configure).
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Are you able to install a package from Sage's R ? 

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