For what we looking?  As to explaining, "What is this sage thing good for?",
an organization of the
somewhat-messy published documents <https://www.sagenb.org/pub/> might be
nice.  There's some great stuff in there!  Get
something for Jason's colloquium talk in a week?

A link on the main page <http://sagemath.org/> to "Here are some uses of
sage" might make sense.  Some has been done
with Screen Shots <http://sagemath.org/screen_shots>., but one has to
navigate two pages  The art page <http://www.sagemath.org:9001/art> is nice,
but I don't see source
code.

No one else is volunteering, so give me whatever necessary authority & some
direction, and
I'll do it.

I see something like (I'm alphabetizing, and probably missing a lot):

  Biology (Marshall's note)
   Breakdown as needed

  Chemistry
    Subdivisions as needed

  Economics (Michael's note)
    Break up as needed

  Mathematics
     calculus
     DE's
     Linear algebra -> more abstract stuff, et cetera, subdivisions.

  Physics
     Subfields as needed.

  Pretty pictures and math art via sage (of great importance to the
mathematics duffers, probably none of
                                                          whom read this
list)
    Other subfields as necessary.

  Sage Functionality and good examples of how to code in sage & solve sticky
problems
     More breakdown

And so forth.  I see lots of cool stuff on the course web-page at this
link<http://wiki.wstein.org/2008/480a/schedule>
.

Better organized, someone could send out notes, "We have plenty of examples
of the MVT, but need
more in this abstract subfield of Group Theory.

When most want to know about a software package, s/he asks, "How does it
make MY life a better place?
What can it do?  Pictures?  What are it's limitations? I don't want to spend
a month learning it.  Why should I
be interested in this open-source 'free' stuff?  What's the catch?"

If no use is immediately obvious, "Say, this Mathematica thing has some
pretty nice documentation ..."

Just my verbose $0.02.  No one else was responding.  I think sage has great
potential, but everyone is so busy
developing, no-one has time to market.  Talk to our friends at Apple about
that one.

Dean

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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:37 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This quarter I'm going to use Sage to teach an  interdisciplinary
> course called  "Algebraic, Scientiļ¬c, and Statistical Computing, an
> Open Source Approach Using Sage" this quarter.   The course webpage is
> here: http://wiki.wstein.org/2008/480a
>
> For me the theme of this course is basically this: now that Sage is
> "here", what
> does it do?  What can we do with it?   How can its very broad capabilities
> be
> easily explained to people?
>
> Somehow we've built up a massive amount of functionality during the
> last two years, and it's time to step back for a moment and figure out
> what
> the heck one can do with sage-2.11.tar.gz.   And, given what Sage has
> become, this is very much an interdisciplinary question.
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Marshall Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >  I use Sage as the primary platform for an interdisciplinary course on
> >  bioinformatics.  The students are a mix of math, biology, and
> >  chemistry graduate students (and a small number of undergraduates).  I
> >  use (and largely maintain) the biopython spkg for sage.  For more
> >  detail than you want, you can look at the course homepage:
> >
> >  
> > http://www.d.umn.edu/~mhampton/m5233s8.html<http://www.d.umn.edu/%7Emhampton/m5233s8.html>
> >
> >  Cheers,
> >  Marshall Hampton
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Mar 28, 5:34 pm, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > Hi all,
> >  >
> >  > I'm giving a colloquium talk on Sage in a week to a broad audience of
> >  > science-related faculty at a liberal arts college.  I'd like to point
> >  > out some applications of Sage in things other than math, like using
> the
> >  > biopython project, possibly R, etc.  Does anyone have some good
> material
> >  > using Sage in science-related interdisciplinary research?
> >  >
> >  > If there are lots of responses, I'll make a wiki page with the info.
> >  >
> >  > Thanks,
> >  >
> >  > Jason
> >  >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> William Stein
> Associate Professor of Mathematics
> University of Washington
> http://wstein.org
>
> >
>

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