I still have a question: Keeping in mind Tumbleweed is a rolling release of 
Opensuse - is it clever to build a fixed binary? Will this binary persist 
with the rolling software updates?

Maybe that's why the dependencies of source and binary package don't work? 
I will test these dependencies tomorrow at all, so that I don't tell you 
wrong things and the dependencies work at all ...


Tobias

Tobias Weiss schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 21:32:15 UTC+1:

> OK, so I stop the current build. Then I install for every dependency both 
> - devel and binary package - and retry the build tomorrow.
>
> Then it don't makes sence, that the binary is not installed automatically 
> when I install the source package - but this is an Opensuse problem. Once, 
> it was like this ...
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Tobias
>
> dim...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 21:05:45 UTC+1:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:21 PM Tobias Weiss <tobwe...@web.de> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > ... I thought there must be a reason I can install the development 
>> package without binary package. But no it makes no sense to me. Can this be 
>> the reason of both complile errors? 
>> > 
>> > Tobias 
>> > 
>> > Tobias Weiss schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 20:15:24 UTC+1: 
>> >> 
>> >> ... how does compiling work? Needs the compiler also the binary of 
>> some library or only the library-devel package with the code? For most 
>> packages I only installed the devel package ... 
>> I don't know much about OpenSUSE, but some distributions typically 
>> have <library>-dev packages dependent on <library> packages, and 
>> some (e.g. Fedora) do not, i.e. you always need to install both 
>> <library>-dev (or <library>-devel) and <library>. 
>> It seems to me that OpenSUSE is an rpm-based distro, thus it would be 
>> like Fedora, and require <library>-devel and <library> in some cases. 
>>
>>
>> If you just run ./configure 
>> it will print at the end some messages about packages that are 
>> recommended to be installed (after guessing, hopefully correctly 
>> the kind of Linux system it is on) 
>>
>>
>> >> 
>> >> Tobias 
>> >> 
>> >> Tobias Weiss schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 19:30:49 UTC+1: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I didn't want to find out, what is the problem with sagelib. The 
>> error was from the system packages. So I wanted no conflicts between system 
>> wide packages and the packages from the tarball. So I configured like this: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> ./configure --with-system-arb=no --with-system-boost=no 
>> --with-system-brial=no --with-system-cddlib=no --with-system-cliquer=no 
>> --with-system-ecm=no --with-system-eclib=no --with-system-fflas_ffpack=no 
>> -- 
>> >>> with-system-flint=no --with-system-flintqs=no --with-system-fplll=no 
>> --with-system-freetype=no --with-system-gc=no --with-system-giac=no 
>> --with-system-givaro=no --with-system-glpk=no --with-system-gmp=no 
>> --with-system-gsl=no 
>> >>> --with-system-iconv=no --with-system-iml=no --with-system-isl=no 
>> --with-system-lcalc=no --with-system-libbraiding=no 
>> --with-system-libatomic_ops=no --with-system-libffi=no 
>> --with-system-libgd=no --with-system-libsemigroups= 
>> >>> no --with-system-lrcalc=no --with-system-m4rie=no 
>> --with-system-m4ri=no --with-system-mpc=no --with-system-mpfi=no 
>> --with-system-mpfr=no --with-system-mpir=no --with-system-ninja_build=no 
>> --with-system-ntl=no --with-system-o 
>> >>> penblas=no --with-system-pandoc=no --with-system-pari=no 
>> --with-system-pari_galdata=no --with-system-pari_seadata_small=no 
>> --with-system-pcre=no --with-system-perl_term_readline_gnu=no 
>> --with-system-planarity=no --with-syste 
>> >>> m-ppl=no --with-system-rw=no --with-system-readline=no 
>> --with-system-suitesparse=no --with-system-symmetrica=no 
>> --with-system-yasm=no --with-system-zeromq=no --with-system-zn_poly=no 
>> --with-system-pynac=no 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Sure, I wanted to use gcc from system. But it was also compiled 
>> newly. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Shall I reproduce the error with sagelib, when I have time? 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Tobias 
>> >>> 
>> >>> dim...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 18:49:10 
>> UTC+1: 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 5:44 PM Tobias Weiss <tobwe...@web.de> 
>> wrote: 
>> >>>> > 
>> >>>> > OK! I just uninstalled flint and did configure without system 
>> packages again (after make clean). I can tell you if it works tomorrow or 
>> later, because of compile time ... 
>> >>>> > 
>> >>>> > Well, I first tried to compile with system packages, but this made 
>> an error, when making sagelib - beacause of pari, I think. 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> We very much welcome reports of failures like this, as we strive to 
>> >>>> unvendor as much as possible. 
>> >>>> Skipping all the system packages is surely a huge overkill - e.g. 
>> why 
>> >>>> on Earth would you need to build gcc 
>> >>>> on a regular Linux system? 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> > 
>> >>>> > 
>> >>>> > Thank you! I hope this works, 
>> >>>> > Tobias 
>> >>>> > 
>> >>>> > dim...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 
>> 16:09:05 UTC+1: 
>> >>>> >> 
>> >>>> >> 
>> >>>> >> 
>> >>>> >> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 14:21 Tobias, <tobwe...@web.de> wrote: 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> Hallo Everybody, 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> on OpenSuse Tumbleweed I try building sage 9.2 without most of 
>> packages from 
>> >>>> >>> system. The make command stopped compiling pynac because "the 
>> programm needs 
>> >>>> >>> libflint", but flint was already compiled by make command. 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> Then I wanted to start make command again with pynac, but make 
>> skipped pynac 
>> >>>> >>> and started with the next package. 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> What should I do? I would probably restart building and 
>> configure with --with- 
>> >>>> >>> system-flint=yes and --with-system-flintqs=yes 
>> >>>> >>> But it took so long to come here ... 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> What would you say? 
>> >>>> >> 
>> >>>> >> 
>> >>>> >> I guess you have flint installed systemwide, as well, and pynac 
>> gets confused as to which flint to use. 
>> >>>> >> 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> Kind regards, 
>> >>>> >>> Tobias 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> from log file 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> sage-9.2/local/var/tmp/sage/build/pynac-0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03.p0/src/config 
>>
>> >>>> >>> >.log 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> > configure:17041: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 
>> >>>> >>> > -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib 
>> >>>> >>> > -L/home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib 
>> >>>> >>> > -Wl,-rpath,/home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib conftest.c 
>> -lflint -lgmp 
>> >>>> >>> > >&5 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/10/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
>> >>>> >>> > warning: libgmp.so.23, needed by 
>> >>>> >>> > /home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib/libflint.so, may conflict 
>> with 
>> >>>> >>> > libgmp.so.10 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/10/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
>> >>>> >>> > _ZN3NTL9zz_pEInfoE: TLS definition in /usr/lib64/libntl.so.43 
>> section .tbss 
>> >>>> >>> > mismatches non-TLS reference in 
>> >>>> >>> > /home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib/libflint.so 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/10/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
>> >>>> >>> > /usr/lib64/libntl.so.43: error adding symbols: bad value 
>> collect2: error: 
>> >>>> >>> > ld returned 1 exit status 
>> >>>> >>> > configure:17041: $? = 1 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> >>>> >>> > configure: failed program was: 
>> >>>> >>> > | /* confdefs.h */ 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_NAME "pynac" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "pynac" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_VERSION "0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_STRING "pynac 0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "<pynac...@googlegroups.com>" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_URL "" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE "pynac" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define VERSION "0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define ARCHIVE_VERSION 3 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define ARCHIVE_AGE 0 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define STDC_HEADERS 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_SYS_STAT_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_STDLIB_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_STRING_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_MEMORY_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_STRINGS_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_INTTYPES_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_STDINT_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_UNISTD_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_DLFCN_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define LT_OBJDIR ".libs/" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_GMP_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_FLINT_FMPQ_POLY_H 1 
>> >>>> >>> > | /* end confdefs.h. */ 
>> >>>> >>> > | 
>> >>>> >>> > | /* Override any GCC internal prototype to avoid an error. 
>> >>>> >>> > | 
>> >>>> >>> > | Use char because int might match the return type of a GCC 
>> >>>> >>> > | builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply. 
>> */ 
>> >>>> >>> > | 
>> >>>> >>> > | #ifdef __cplusplus 
>> >>>> >>> > | extern "C" 
>> >>>> >>> > | #endif 
>> >>>> >>> > | char fmpq_get_mpz_frac (); 
>> >>>> >>> > | int 
>> >>>> >>> > | main () 
>> >>>> >>> > | { 
>> >>>> >>> > | return fmpq_get_mpz_frac (); 
>> >>>> >>> > | 
>> >>>> >>> > | ; 
>> >>>> >>> > | return 0; 
>> >>>> >>> > | 
>> >>>> >>> > | } 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> >>>> >>> > configure:17058: result: no 
>> >>>> >>> > configure:17065: error: This package needs libflint 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> or from file 
>> >>>> >>> > sage-9.2/logs/pkgs/pynac-0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03.p0.log 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> 
>> >>>> >>> > checking for library containing __gmpz_get_str... -lgmp 
>> >>>> >>> > checking flint/fmpq_poly.h usability... yes 
>> >>>> >>> > checking flint/fmpq_poly.h presence... yes 
>> >>>> >>> > checking for flint/fmpq_poly.h... yes 
>> >>>> >>> > checking for library containing fmpq_get_mpz_frac... no 
>> >>>> >>> > configure: error: This package needs libflint 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> **************************************************************************** 
>>
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> **************************************************************************** 
>>
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> ************************************************************************ 
>> >>>> >>> > Error configuring pynac-0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03.p0 
>> >>>> >>> > See the file 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> /home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/var/tmp/sage/build/pynac-0.7.26.sage-202 
>> >>>> >>> > 0-04-03.p0/src/config.log> 
>> >>>> >>> > for details. 
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> **************************************************************************** 
>>
>> >>>> >>> > 
>> **************************************************************************** 
>>
>> >>>> >>> > 
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