Is it possible to create a rpm file after build? If I install sage with
rpm, the system knows about all dependencies and warns me if I'm going to
hurt them.
Tobias
dim...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 22:53:06 UTC+1:
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 9:36 PM Tobias Weiss <tobwe...@web.de> wrote:
> >
> > I still have a question: Keeping in mind Tumbleweed is a rolling release
> of Opensuse - is it clever to build a fixed binary? Will this binary
> persist with the rolling software updates?
>
> we regularly test SageMath on Gentoo, which is a rolling release system,
> too.
> Needless to say, once in a while one might need to rebuild something,
> if a library SageMath depends on was updated
> in an incompatible way.
>
> >
> > Maybe that's why the dependencies of source and binary package don't
> work?
>
> no, it's not they don't work, it's a design choice, leading to fewer
> updates;
> often only a binary package changes, then if it is a dynamic library
> then nothing needs to be rebuilt.
> (perhaps - I am not sure here; perhaps it's just a historical choice
> that stayed)
>
>
> > I will test these dependencies tomorrow at all, so that I don't tell you
> wrong things and the dependencies work at all ...
> >
> >
> > Tobias
> >
> > Tobias Weiss schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 21:32:15 UTC+1:
> >>
> >> OK, so I stop the current build. Then I install for every dependency
> both - devel and binary package - and retry the build tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Then it don't makes sence, that the binary is not installed
> automatically when I install the source package - but this is an Opensuse
> problem. Once, it was like this ...
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >>
> >> Tobias
> >>
> >> dim...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 21:05:45
> UTC+1:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:21 PM Tobias Weiss <tobwe...@web.de> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > ... I thought there must be a reason I can install the development
> package without binary package. But no it makes no sense to me. Can this be
> the reason of both complile errors?
> >>> >
> >>> > Tobias
> >>> >
> >>> > Tobias Weiss schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 20:15:24 UTC+1:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ... how does compiling work? Needs the compiler also the binary of
> some library or only the library-devel package with the code? For most
> packages I only installed the devel package ...
> >>> I don't know much about OpenSUSE, but some distributions typically
> >>> have <library>-dev packages dependent on <library> packages, and
> >>> some (e.g. Fedora) do not, i.e. you always need to install both
> >>> <library>-dev (or <library>-devel) and <library>.
> >>> It seems to me that OpenSUSE is an rpm-based distro, thus it would be
> >>> like Fedora, and require <library>-devel and <library> in some cases.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you just run ./configure
> >>> it will print at the end some messages about packages that are
> >>> recommended to be installed (after guessing, hopefully correctly
> >>> the kind of Linux system it is on)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Tobias
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Tobias Weiss schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 19:30:49
> UTC+1:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I didn't want to find out, what is the problem with sagelib. The
> error was from the system packages. So I wanted no conflicts between system
> wide packages and the packages from the tarball. So I configured like this:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> ./configure --with-system-arb=no --with-system-boost=no
> --with-system-brial=no --with-system-cddlib=no --with-system-cliquer=no
> --with-system-ecm=no --with-system-eclib=no --with-system-fflas_ffpack=no --
> >>> >>> with-system-flint=no --with-system-flintqs=no
> --with-system-fplll=no --with-system-freetype=no --with-system-gc=no
> --with-system-giac=no --with-system-givaro=no --with-system-glpk=no
> --with-system-gmp=no --with-system-gsl=no
> >>> >>> --with-system-iconv=no --with-system-iml=no --with-system-isl=no
> --with-system-lcalc=no --with-system-libbraiding=no
> --with-system-libatomic_ops=no --with-system-libffi=no
> --with-system-libgd=no --with-system-libsemigroups=
> >>> >>> no --with-system-lrcalc=no --with-system-m4rie=no
> --with-system-m4ri=no --with-system-mpc=no --with-system-mpfi=no
> --with-system-mpfr=no --with-system-mpir=no --with-system-ninja_build=no
> --with-system-ntl=no --with-system-o
> >>> >>> penblas=no --with-system-pandoc=no --with-system-pari=no
> --with-system-pari_galdata=no --with-system-pari_seadata_small=no
> --with-system-pcre=no --with-system-perl_term_readline_gnu=no
> --with-system-planarity=no --with-syste
> >>> >>> m-ppl=no --with-system-rw=no --with-system-readline=no
> --with-system-suitesparse=no --with-system-symmetrica=no
> --with-system-yasm=no --with-system-zeromq=no --with-system-zn_poly=no
> --with-system-pynac=no
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Sure, I wanted to use gcc from system. But it was also compiled
> newly.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Shall I reproduce the error with sagelib, when I have time?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Tobias
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> dim...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um
> 18:49:10 UTC+1:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 5:44 PM Tobias Weiss <tobwe...@web.de>
> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > OK! I just uninstalled flint and did configure without system
> packages again (after make clean). I can tell you if it works tomorrow or
> later, because of compile time ...
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Well, I first tried to compile with system packages, but this
> made an error, when making sagelib - beacause of pari, I think.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> We very much welcome reports of failures like this, as we strive
> to
> >>> >>>> unvendor as much as possible.
> >>> >>>> Skipping all the system packages is surely a huge overkill - e.g.
> why
> >>> >>>> on Earth would you need to build gcc
> >>> >>>> on a regular Linux system?
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Thank you! I hope this works,
> >>> >>>> > Tobias
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > dim...@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um
> 16:09:05 UTC+1:
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 14:21 Tobias, <tobwe...@web.de> wrote:
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> Hallo Everybody,
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> on OpenSuse Tumbleweed I try building sage 9.2 without most
> of packages from
> >>> >>>> >>> system. The make command stopped compiling pynac because "the
> programm needs
> >>> >>>> >>> libflint", but flint was already compiled by make command.
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> Then I wanted to start make command again with pynac, but
> make skipped pynac
> >>> >>>> >>> and started with the next package.
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> What should I do? I would probably restart building and
> configure with --with-
> >>> >>>> >>> system-flint=yes and --with-system-flintqs=yes
> >>> >>>> >>> But it took so long to come here ...
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> What would you say?
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >> I guess you have flint installed systemwide, as well, and
> pynac gets confused as to which flint to use.
> >>> >>>> >>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> >>>> >>> Tobias
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> from log file
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> sage-9.2/local/var/tmp/sage/build/pynac-0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03.p0/src/config
> >>> >>>> >>> >.log
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> > configure:17041: gcc -o conftest -g -O2
> >>> >>>> >>> > -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib
> >>> >>>> >>> > -L/home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib
> >>> >>>> >>> > -Wl,-rpath,/home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib conftest.c
> -lflint -lgmp
> >>> >>>> >>> > >&5
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/10/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld:
> >>> >>>> >>> > warning: libgmp.so.23, needed by
> >>> >>>> >>> > /home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib/libflint.so, may
> conflict with
> >>> >>>> >>> > libgmp.so.10
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/10/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld:
> >>> >>>> >>> > _ZN3NTL9zz_pEInfoE: TLS definition in
> /usr/lib64/libntl.so.43 section .tbss
> >>> >>>> >>> > mismatches non-TLS reference in
> >>> >>>> >>> > /home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/lib/libflint.so
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/10/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld:
> >>> >>>> >>> > /usr/lib64/libntl.so.43: error adding symbols: bad value
> collect2: error:
> >>> >>>> >>> > ld returned 1 exit status
> >>> >>>> >>> > configure:17041: $? = 1
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> >>> >>>> >>> > configure: failed program was:
> >>> >>>> >>> > | /* confdefs.h */
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_NAME "pynac"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "pynac"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_VERSION "0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_STRING "pynac 0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "<pynac...@googlegroups.com>"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE_URL ""
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define PACKAGE "pynac"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define VERSION "0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define ARCHIVE_VERSION 3
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define ARCHIVE_AGE 0
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define STDC_HEADERS 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_SYS_STAT_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_STDLIB_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_STRING_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_MEMORY_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_STRINGS_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_INTTYPES_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_STDINT_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_UNISTD_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_DLFCN_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define LT_OBJDIR ".libs/"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_GMP_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #define HAVE_FLINT_FMPQ_POLY_H 1
> >>> >>>> >>> > | /* end confdefs.h. */
> >>> >>>> >>> > |
> >>> >>>> >>> > | /* Override any GCC internal prototype to avoid an error.
> >>> >>>> >>> > |
> >>> >>>> >>> > | Use char because int might match the return type of a GCC
> >>> >>>> >>> > | builtin and then its argument prototype would still
> apply. */
> >>> >>>> >>> > |
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #ifdef __cplusplus
> >>> >>>> >>> > | extern "C"
> >>> >>>> >>> > | #endif
> >>> >>>> >>> > | char fmpq_get_mpz_frac ();
> >>> >>>> >>> > | int
> >>> >>>> >>> > | main ()
> >>> >>>> >>> > | {
> >>> >>>> >>> > | return fmpq_get_mpz_frac ();
> >>> >>>> >>> > |
> >>> >>>> >>> > | ;
> >>> >>>> >>> > | return 0;
> >>> >>>> >>> > |
> >>> >>>> >>> > | }
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> >>> >>>> >>> > configure:17058: result: no
> >>> >>>> >>> > configure:17065: error: This package needs libflint
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> or from file
> >>> >>>> >>> > sage-9.2/logs/pkgs/pynac-0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03.p0.log
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>>> >>> > checking for library containing __gmpz_get_str... -lgmp
> >>> >>>> >>> > checking flint/fmpq_poly.h usability... yes
> >>> >>>> >>> > checking flint/fmpq_poly.h presence... yes
> >>> >>>> >>> > checking for flint/fmpq_poly.h... yes
> >>> >>>> >>> > checking for library containing fmpq_get_mpz_frac... no
> >>> >>>> >>> > configure: error: This package needs libflint
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> ************************************************************************
> >>> >>>> >>> > Error configuring pynac-0.7.26.sage-2020-04-03.p0
> >>> >>>> >>> > See the file
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> /home/tobias/bin/sage-9.2/local/var/tmp/sage/build/pynac-0.7.26.sage-202
> >>> >>>> >>> > 0-04-03.p0/src/config.log>
> >>> >>>> >>> > for details.
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> ****************************************************************************
> >>> >>>> >>> >
> ************************************************************************
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