I second that suggestion Alan. That is the best thought out solution as I too can see that there are some in Abreu Vaddo for and some opposed and do not forget 500 mts goes into other vaddos. As a matter of note in residential communities in Solano County where I live we do not have cell phones towers in the middle of residences. We do have towers but they are out of the 500 mts range. I would be protesting if one should come within 500 mts of my residence.RegardsChris --- On Mon, 4/9/12, Alan Fernandes <alanzfo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Alan Fernandes <alanzfo...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Dear Blaise Costabir... To: "saligao-net@googlegroups.com" <saligao-net@googlegroups.com> Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 5:12 PM Chris,What abt new communities that are coming up in California - don't they have mobile towers for the community what about those ramifications?If there was a real danger to human life from mobile towers , do you really think california , the most Eco friendly state in the US would allow mobile towers in residential areas? The problem here is that M&M need to back off from objecting to any development that takes place and let entrepreneurs bring about change and development because soon M&M's credibility will erode and people will start to loose confidence in their cause no matter how genuine the seriousness of the problem is. May be we need to focus on M&M's motives?Like dilip da Cruz said "cell phones saves lifes" Let's see how many people from abreu vaddo who are against the mobile tower because they believe it causes radiation voice their opinion on the saligao net demanding the tower be moved else where.Alternative solution would be to have a referendum for the people of Abreu Vaddo - those that favor the tower and those that oppose the tower. Best way to resolve this issue once and for all. Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2012, at 11:17 AM, "dilip dacruz" <cruzmissil...@hotmail.com> wrote: Just to clarify my position re the tower in case I'm being misunderstood. I said there was no evidence of harm (and there isn't despite all the abstracts M&M send.). Cancer is not an issue according to the peer-reviewed literature. And that includes the Scandanavian study and the Brazilian one. Not theoretically (bio-physics) and not epidemiologically. But I qualified my position with the 'just in case' phrase saying it was better well away from residences just in case there were weak side-effects like depression which were difficult to study. Remember I also pleaded against an impasse, arguing better a tower than none at all. Mobile phones save lives. I see that on a regular basis at work. More 999 calls are made on mobiles than landlines. The arguments for and against a mast will go on and on. It's like blindness and watching TV, or eating butter, or Kennedy's assassination, etc etc. Some arguments never go away. We need to compromise and move on, avoiding the usual circular arguments. Its unfair for the Delaney's to lose out financially. Its also unfair to expect people who are genuinely scared of the mast to accept it in their midst. So what's the compromise position, anyone? cruzmissil...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 03:35:04 -0700 From: goanch...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Dear Blaise Costabir... To: alanzfo...@hotmail.com CC: saligao-net@googlegroups.com No Mariano was not pursuing a RO course. That was me. Your questions on california are irrelevant to the subject as these were put in long before the actual ramifications were known. With the knowledge that we have today, I do not think the Saligao should do the same. Also Alan if everyone was jumping into a dry well would you?RegardsChris --- On Sun, 4/8/12, Alan Fernandes <alanzfo...@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Alan Fernandes <alanzfo...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Dear Blaise Costabir... To: "Christopher Desouza " <goanch...@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012, 8:05 PM Hey christie, Are there no cell towers in residential areas in California where u live? If not how do u and the community get their signal for texting purpose? Regarding this expert of 16 years , are you talking about Mariano who was pursuing his Radio Officers' course at st Xaviers' Technical Institute Mahim in the mid 70's? Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Desouza <goanch...@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 15:10:21 To: <saligao-net@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Dear Blaise Costabir... Hi Blaise! We have never met. I live in California. Alfred your wife's brother was a very good friend of mine and we were room mates for a few years in Bombay. I have watched with pride his children growing up. And this is why I am writing to you. Now I watched with interest as the mobile tower situation in Saligao, has developed from what should have been a coming together of minds for the greater good of the community. Instead this has developed into mudslinging between people who have formerly come together for the well being of the community. I am saddened! I too welcome change and am open to business but do believe in eco-sensitive and eco-sustainable development. Now this what has transpired in Abreu vaddo is not exactly a eco sensitive development, as the human settlement in the place has been there much before any consideration for a tower. Now you may all debunk each other and throw out challenges and mud in a very non-chalant way destroying the community as you go along. There is much to be said for non sponsored science. I mean the science that has not been funded by industry. In science that has been funded by the telecommunication industry, they of course will have a biased opinion. The one that is friendly in outlook to their industry. Now this same industry puts in millions of dollars into government coffers around the world. That is why this industry has developed at such a fast pace. To date they do not clearly know the consequences of this rampant surge. Now the 2 sides in this argument from my perspective are: 1. People who want improvement no matter what the cost to themselves and their community, People not sensitive to community sensitivity and community risk or human eco sensitivity. People motivated only by egos and $$$$$. 2. People who are averse to being subjected to the health hazards of the telecom industry. People open to change and modernization with proper risk management and eco-sensitivity. Both goals could be met if sane minds prevail. All it takes is to have the tower located 500 mts from Human habitation. That is all the community is asking for. I agree with you as that you should work together to have government standards on location of towers. But the fight has to start somewhere and this is ground zero to have exactly those standards set in place. I will now quote an expert in the field of Radio submission and Electro-magnetic submission.He has worked 16 years in this field for military and industrial applications. He is my brother, Mariano, in Melbourne, Australia. He says(about the people in Saligao) " they just don't understand how severe the consequences of exposure from cell phones and towers are. I for one use the cell phone as sparsely as possible". My brother has been warning me of the consequences since the advent of the cell phone business. I personally try to use the cell only for text and advise all to do the same Mario of course has already detailed all the related consequences to the human mind and body and these are from unbiased scientific studies around the world. Yet you seem intent to throwing out challenges instead of working with this community to begin to start some sort of standard for the location of mobile towers away from residential communities in Saligao and Goa. Just because it happens in the rest of Goa, does not mean it has to happen in the educated community of Saligao as well. Mario, Gerard, Ashley, Maurice, Rico and all those involved in this argument. You are all friends of mine and I consider community leaders in Goa. C. D'Mello and V. Cordeiro, Blaise I do not know personally but know their families. Please lets get together and do something about this and get together a managed risk and an eco-sensitive solution. My personal stake in this is that my good friend Alfred's children not suffer from consequences from exposure as they live within the 500 mts limit of the proposed tower. Hope sane minds prevail !! Yours in community! Chris De Souza San Francisco Bay Area. --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Blaise Costabir <bla...@gmizm.com> wrote: From: Blaise Costabir <bla...@gmizm.com> Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] Re: Dear Blaise Costabir... To: saligao-net@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 12:21 AM FN Pls come to my home in Fatorda, I can show you the tower. I would find it hard to believe that in Goa we can set up towers 500 mts away from any residential property and yet use the mobile phone. In Mumbai too next to impossible. in Mumbai they sit on top of residential buildings by the dozens.So basically we have to make a choice Mobile phone or no mobile phone. Not tower or no tower. Alternatively you show me a tower and I will show you a hose within the 500 mts radius. I repeat what we need the Government to come up with is regulations as to where the towers can be set up. I think we can go on talking till the cows come home and beyond as like smoking which we know kills but it is indulged in anyway. So also I would like to use a mobile phone despite its hazards and the younger generation cannot do without the same even for 5 secs at a time. Have a nice day. Blaise 2012/4/7 Frederick FN Noronha * ????????? ???????? * ??????? ??????? <fredericknoron...@gmail.com </mc/compose?to=fredericknoron...@gmail.com> > On 7 April 2012 12:25, Blaise Costabir <bla...@gmizm.com </mc/compose?to=bla...@gmizm.com> > wrote: The fact that even a "poor" signal which FN can live with finally comes from a tower close to someone else's house. Blaise, are you sure that tower is in some residential locality too? FN -- Saligao-Net is at http://groups.google.com/group/saligao-net To post to this group, send email to saligao-net@googlegroups.com </mc/compose?to=saligao-net@googlegroups.com> To unsubscribe email saligao-net-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com </mc/compose?to=saligao-net-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> -- Blaise Costabir Managing Director GMI Zarhak Moulders Pvt ltd website: www.shaktiindia.com <http://www.shaktiindia.com> Blog: onyourown-implementor.blogspot.com <http://onyourown-implementor.blogspot.com> We are switching to our new email id, please note. 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