I've used Excel, OpenOffice, Notepad, Araneae, WinVI and others,
including scripts without any problems except those I've created myself.
While these methods do work they are unsupported by Dirk and Woodstone
and are done at your own risk.

-Kevin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carroll, Andy
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Hostfile / Database query / idea
> 
> 
> Dirk / Brent,
> 
> I appreciate your comments, I gain further insight with each 
> passing email...
> 
> My problem is: I am considering making some fairly large 
> changes to the entries I have in the hostfile.
> 
> I have tried a few text editors to do various search / 
> replace or macro / scripted routines to make significant 
> changes, however when I save these to raw ASCII text format, 
> SA refuses to load the any hostfile created this way.
> 
> 
> Am I doing something wrong? I have been in it for 14 years, I 
> would of thought saving to ASCII text was a fair straight 
> forward task, it certainly has never caused me difficulties 
> in the past!
> 
> I have found the only reliable editor to use has been NT / 
> W2K Notepad, however the editing capabilities of this are 
> severely limited. As I do not have the knowledge to 
> understand what each section of the hostfile record relates 
> to, having this in table format would necessitate column / 
> field titles giving a better understanding of the hostfile 
> structure. I am certainly no SQL guru, but I know how to 
> manipulate data given the relevant column / field names.
> 
> If I had this level of understanding of the hostfile 
> structure then this would probably not be a concern.
> 
> Are there any editors that you are aware of that give 
> reasonable editing capabilities and still save to ASCII text 
> files that SA will load?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 March 2003 17:17
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Hostfile / Database query / idea
> 
> 
> Also it's not because info is within a SQL/ODBC database that 
> it's easy to change/update.  You still need to understand 
> that way the fields "work". Also you would need to know parts 
> of the inner working of SA and would need to know how we 
> encrypt password (as example).
> 
> 
> 
> dirk.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Brent Ozar
> Sent: Fri Mar 28 6:09 PM
> To: Carroll, Andy
> Subject: Re: [SA-list] Hostfile / Database query / idea
> 
> 
> Friday, March 28, 2003, 11:01:09 AM, you wrote:
> 
> CA> would it / is it possible to load the hostfile into an 
> ODBC database
> table? 
> CA> This would make doing changes on the hostfile very easy 
> as you could 
> CA> do
> it
> CA> using SQL.
> 
> Before I got started on the journey of doing web reporting 
> for SA, I agreed with you.  I used to think I wanted SA's 
> configuration to be stored in SQL.  However, since I started 
> doing ODBC-based reporting templates, I've come to realize 
> that there's not a lot of us users who are truly SQL-savvy 
> enough to do our own updating by hand.  Nothing against the 
> other folks in this email list, but - well, let's just say if 
> I was Dirk, I don't think I'd want people to be hand-editing 
> their configurations in SQL, and then running into the group 
> complaining about why SA doesn't work.
> 
> CA> like to make numerous changes, however doing them one at a time 
> CA> through
> the
> CA> interface would be extremely tedious, and just opening 
> the hostfile 
> CA> in notepad is not ideal as it is easy to get lost in such 
> a complex 
> CA> text
> file.
> 
> Lemme get this straight: a text file is too complex, and ODBC 
> is going to make it easier?  Hahaha.  I know what you mean, 
> but for most users, SQL isn't exactly a walk in the park.  
> Would I pay money for the ability to do it?  Sure, but the 
> number of us who would pay, and the amount we would pay, 
> probably wouldn't merit it.  I'd say offhand that I'd pay an 
> extra $200 for it, but I'm sure I'm in the minority.
> 
> 
> --
> BrentO
> 
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