And what exactly should be appended?
The full hostfile?  Or just the names/pretty/...



dirk.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Lyons
Sent: Fri Oct 24 3:48 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Statistical database question....


The only time SA misses data is if the stats changes while SAlive is
shut down.

I do agree it is a problem if devices don't ever go down, they don't get
an entry but you can then assume that it is 100% up.  It would be nice
to keep track of the number of hosts checked each cycle or to keep an
average host entry count...I created a perl script that can run in ASP
to parse the stat log and just have a stat at the bottom that anything
not listed was at 100%. I have been playing around with the idea that at
the end of each month, I automagically generate a copy of the current
hosts file for Servers Alive, so up to a granularity of a month, I can
list all the servers checked for that month and include it is my output.

I wonder if dirk, would consider adding a feature that would append the
list of hosts in the SAlive host file to the monthly stat log when he
rotates the logs monthly?

Dirk?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Statistical database question....
> 
> Well, the columns you currently write are fine, BUT....
> 
> I have been tasked to create monthly / annual UP/DOWN stats for the 
> major devices. What I do now is sum all of the minutes where the 
> previousstatus is X. The problem comes in that SA doesn't regularly 
> output state stats to this table. I only see entries if there has been

> a change in status. So, unless my network is a complete piece of 
> trash, most of the devices never get any entries. Also, like I said, a

> close/open of SA resets all of SA's internal time stamps so that if a 
> change does occur, the output only reflects from when SA was last 
> restarted.
> 
> If SA output stats during a graceful shutdown, and on a regular time 
> schedule (say a few times a day (midnight, noon)) then I can use your 
> table as is. Otherwise, I need to perform the metrics calculations on 
> the interchange table, which will be a lengthy process if they ask me 
> for the last years stats, and I have been writing every 5 minutes.
> 
> I can't see any issue with a previous and current status entry being 
> the same, but maybe a new column to explain more exactly why the 
> record was written would be helpful.
> 
> Mike
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/03 06:04AM >>>
> What exact info should be kept?
> 
> 
> 
> dirk.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Shook
> Sent: Thu Oct 23 10:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SA-list] Statistical database question....
> 
> 
> If I understand the process correctly, when the first cycle is run on 
> the start of SA you gather a status and datetime. When the status 
> changes, the duration is calculated, the datetime is reset, the new 
> status is recorded. Then an appropriate entry is written to the 
> database.
> 
> If that's correct, then when SA is stopped/restarted, all of the 
> "running time" info is lost from the last program start or last status

> change.
> 
> Would it be possible to output all of the current "running time" info 
> for each check to the database before SA shuts down (assuming a 
> gracefull shutdown)? Maybe record the current status as the same for 
> both last and new.
> 
> I'm trying to get the most out of this database, but I can't calculate

> an accurate quality % if I don't have all of the up times.
> 
> Thanks!!!!
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Michael Shook
> Business Continuity Analyst
> Saddle Creek Corporation
> 723 Joe Tamplin Industrial Blvd
> Macon GA  31217
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