Most enterprise monitoring apps have some sort of discovery feature 
using a combination of traceroute, pings, snmp, and port checks (to 
determine routes, OS, etc).    They then present this information to the 
user in some sort of "pretty" map.  This is one thing missing from 
Salive.  Although the idea of an automated scan would seem useful I 
don't know about the feasibility of changing the entire interface (or 
adding a second app).  

1.  My first question is has anyone found a free or cheap automated 
network mapping application (for Windows).   I am considering developing 
some sort of app myself and don't want to reinvent the wheel. 

2.  My second question is any chance of integrating something like this 
into Salive. 
        Notes:  My thought is this would help with some of the interface 
problems being discussed as of late.  It may also help to automate some 
of the adding of check entries etc.  Since the network path             
                would be determined dependencies could be created.  If a 
host is responding to pings then the other checks (i.e WMI, HTTP, 
application) can depend on the ping first.  Obviously to not lose     
                    functionality some checks/dependincies will need to 
be allowed to be added/edited manually.  Then if this network scan info 
was stored in a database, xml, documented flat file, whatever was     
                    determined, perhaps some of the concerns over 
usability, the GUI, the host file, reporting, etc could be alleviated. 


Clearly the monitoring of Server's Alive is second to none and many have 
been very willing to sacrifice some of these interface features for the 
SUPERIOR monitoring capabilities of Server's Alive.  I would certainly 
not place a network map (most likely involving a total rewrite of the 
gui or at least writing an alternative app to create a host 
file/database) as a high priority.  Just wanted to have this possibility 
considered.  

Also I want to commend Dirk for listening to the discussion over the 
last few days and trying to help as best he can.  He certainly has more 
patience than myself.  I would have given up and say "live with it" by 
now.   Thank you Dirk for your attentiveness, consideration, and patience. 


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Jason Passow
Mississippi Welders Supply
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ph: (507) 494-5178
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