Wow, the addition of a join between my log db (which is a text ODBC driver) and 
the SA db would be both tricky (MS SQL linking to Text DBs has always been 
problematic) and slow (two DBs on 2 servers). So, this solution dies on the 
drawing board (at least for my situation). 
 
I also could use this for other checks besides ODBC. We have one setup that 
monitors the number of files in a directory. These files normally get processed 
by one of our integration servers, but if it gets slow or fails, then these 
files start to pile up. If I had the option for "and every time the result 
changes" I would know how the service is doing, rather than just an UP or DOWN. 
 

Michael D. Shook
Systems Analyst - Data Integration
Saddle Creek Corporation
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863 665 1261 (fax)
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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Jason Passow
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:36 AM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: Re: [SA-list] feature request for v7


I have been thinking about how to get a similar result.  We monitor a fax queue 
but since we are attempting to avoid printing statements and mailing them we 
have had a lot of customers switch to faxed invoices.   I would like to monitor 
if the queue is not only down but not getting better.  i.e. An alert when there 
are more than 20 files but only if the result has not gone down since the last 
check.    I could to use a change in V7 that would keep track of last check 
result in a temp file or something.   I also recall other reasons for people 
wanting this.   

All of that being said I think you could accomplish the same thing since you 
already indicated you are using the odbc check.   We are currently logging all 
check results to a DB and generating web pages from it.   Therefore we could 
write a check that subtracts the most recent result form the check in question 
with the previous result and alert if the result is not positive (either 
unchanged=0, or increased=-x).   You should be able to accomplish the same 
thing.

Now Dirk I want to say that I appreciate the work you do and I don't want the 
fact that we can accomplish what we are looking as a reason not to change it 
V7.   The reason being since check results are not logged to the database until 
the end of the cycle I would always be one cycle behind on my checking and 
therefore alerting.  This is one of the limitations of my solution above and 
reason enough to CONSIDER the change for V7.   (sorry everyone if I rambled I 
have not been sleeping much).  

Jason Passow
Mississippi Welders Supply
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph: (507) 494-5178
fax: (507) 454-8104

"If you do everything right, nobody will realize you've done anything at all."


Michael Shook wrote: 
That may be, but how do I set it up? If I just set another threshhold,
how will I know when it is exceeded again with more errors? If this is a
cascade event (where things go bad and keep going that way) how would
one or two additional checks help? Then two by adding more checks, I
increase the administrative over head of maintaining them.

I realize that this would necessitate SA keeping "hold" of the previous
result, but, then that's why it's a request for v7.


Michael D. Shook
Systems Analyst - Data Integration
Saddle Creek Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
863 668 4477 (work)
863 665 1261 (fax)
www.saddlecrk.com 

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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Viktor Sokol
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:11 PM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: Re: [SA-list] feature request for v7

Hello Michael,

IMO will be much faster to setup additional alert(s) for each event
"getting better" and "getting worse" depending on primary.

Monday, April 9, 2007, 4:50:12 PM, you wrote:

  

   
   
Can I get an alert option for "and every time the result changes"? 
  
For example I have an ODBC check that returns the number of errors in 
a log table for a given period of time. We have a master query that is
    


  

"DOWN when there are more than 3 errors in the last twelve hours"
  
This works a treat, but if during the 12 hours while the initial 4 
errors age, I get 2 more new errors (now 6) I'd like a new alert to go
    


  

out, thus I know things are getting worse.
  
Similarly, if things start out at say, 8, then go down to 5, I'd like 
an alert to go out so I know things are getting better, but still
    

down.
  

  
Thanks!! 
  
    



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