It seems conclusive from your description of the issue that the error is to do 
with the SA code or API it uses. 

 

The error 

 

ERR: [10038] Socket operation on non-socket(25039) 

 

Usually occurs when you create a TCP/IP connection object (which creates a 
socket connection) and that object is either destroyed/disconnected or the 
de-referenced but then the reference to the object is reused. 

 

Do other ping checks also fail once this happens or only this one? 

 

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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:sal...@woodstone.nu] On Behalf Of 
Paul A Mountcastle Jr.
Sent: 06 August 2009 15:51
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] 10038 error 

 

Hi Mark, 

 

The error is on the actual ping, not on any check that may be dependent on it. 

 

I am able to ping the resource from a command line if SA is kicking out this 
error. 

 

Subsequent ping checks report same error once this error is generated once. 
Resolution seems to be to restart SA services. 

 

I set all checks to alert on less than 60% response and only if the resource is 
down more than 2 times. 

 

This error is reported back if I am checking internal or external resource 
using ping check. I understand the If...,Then logic, but I am mostly concerned 
as to what this error code means and how to resolve it without having to 
restart SA services at all hours. 

 

Thank you, 

 

Paul- 

 

 

 

 

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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:sal...@woodstone.nu] On Behalf Of 
Mark Perry
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:16 AM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] 10038 error 

Sorry for all the questions just trying to build a picture of what is 
happening: 

 

The error is on the actual ping check and not a any check which may be 
dependent on it? 

e.g. Is it possible that the ping succeeds as the link is up and the link fails 
over after this point? 

 

When the failure occurs can you then ping the ip address from the same box from 
command line? 

 

Do subsequent ping checks succeed or fail from SA? 

 

If they succeed it maybe that you just need to change the check to alert when 2 
or 3 times down. 

 

Alternatively you could have a check test for link down on primary link using 
the inverse check box which does not generate an alarm or sends an alarm only 
to tech support (not the client) and have a dependent check to the secondary 
link to alert when it is down.  

 

Therefore the logic would be: 

 

If link 1 down check link 2 if down send alert to client. 

 

Even this approach can be problematic if the check occurs during failover there 
is scope in which both could say down at the wrong moment which is why a number 
of my checks only alert when 2x down. 

 

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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:sal...@woodstone.nu] On Behalf Of 
Paul A Mountcastle Jr.
Sent: 06 August 2009 13:46
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] 10038 error 

 

@Mark Perry 

 

This does not kill SA. 

 

Check is a ping to an external WAN interface on an internet router. I know the 
service is not down. I also see this when pinging internal machines as well, 
but only if my ISP failover kicks in. 

 

Need more info? 

 

 

 

 

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Mark Perry
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:06 AM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] 10038 error 

There isn&#8217;t enough info here really. 

 

Are you saying that it kills SA? 

 

Are you able to see which check does this? 

 

Regards 

 

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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:sal...@woodstone.nu] On Behalf Of 
Paul A Mountcastle Jr.
Sent: 06 August 2009 06:25
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: [SA-list] 10038 error 

 

I have multiple ISP lines from different vendors coming in to my datacenter. 
When I experience a failover from one circuit to another, Servers Alive kicks 
out the following error: 


(ERR: [10038] Socket operation on non-socket(25039)) 


A restart of Servers Alive seems to resolve this error. 


 


Why does this occur? I am not always able to restart the services in a timely 
manner, as it sometimes happens overnights; This leads to my clients getting 
false alerts. 


 


Thank you, 


 


Paul- 

 

 

 

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