OK, looking more closely at this now. So a check that is scheduled not to 
happen in the middle of the night is "unchecked" rather than "unavailable"? And 
therefore 0605 would prevent that giving a confusing UP when it starts checking 
again? Now that *is* helpful. Testing now - will report back on findings. 

Cheers, 

Ian 

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From:       "Dirk" <d...@woodstone.nu> 
To:       Servers Alive Discussion List <salive@woodstone.nu> 
Date:       27/05/2011 13:23 
Subject:       RE: [SA-list] Up alerts 
Sent by:       Servers Alive Discussion List <salive@woodstone.nu> 

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hmm typo in the mail. 
 
The example should show: 
               0605,0405 
(and not 65,45) 
 
 
 
dirk 
 
From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:salive@woodstone.nu 
(mailto:salive@woodstone.nu)] On Behalf Of Dirk
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:31 PM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Up alerts 
 
Exactly what I told you  :-) too many alerts. 
 
That's why within the code (and within the current version you have), there is 
a way to reduce the number of alerts :-) 
 
Create HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\DBU Consulting\Servers 
Alive\StartUp\StatusChangeAlertExceptionList (string) 
and give it the list of combination it should ignore. 
 
For example: 
               65,45 
 
0605 : going from 06 (unchecked) to 05 (up) has to be ignored (meaning don't 
trigger the alert) 
0405: going from 04 (maintenance) to 05 (up) has to be ignored. 
 
 
List of possible numbers: 
               01           down 
               02           possible down (should never be visible as this is 
an internal status used during the second knock) 
               03           unavailable 
               04           maintenance 
               05           up 
               06           unchecked 
               07           possible unavailable (should never be visible as 
this is an internal status used during the second knock) 
 
 
 
Hope this helps :-) 
 
 
dirk 
 
               
 
 
 
From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:salive@woodstone.nu 
(mailto:salive@woodstone.nu)] On Behalf Of ian.g...@okieurope.com
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:46 AM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Up alerts 
 
Thanks Dirk - that's implemented. It certainly fixes the original problem (not 
getting an up after the unavailable), but as you suggested it does indeed 
significantly increase the number of alerts, in ways that I hadn't foreseen. 
For example, the check has a schedule to not check for an hour at midnight 
(housekeeping etc), and an up alert goes out after that. Additionally, the 
check (like all our checks) has second knock set, and a "possible down" sent 
out an alert just now. 

Given the number of additional alerts that are coming out, I'm not sure if it's 
viable as a solution to the original problem. For this particular one I could 
feasibly lose the dependency and check this process all the time, which would 
avoid the "unavailable" issue arising, but I guess that brings its own 
problems. 

Anyone else having a difficulty like this, or am I alone? 

Cheers, 

Ian 

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From:        "Dirk" <d...@woodstone.nu> 
To:        Servers Alive Discussion List <salive@woodstone.nu> 
Date:        25/05/2011 15:06 
Subject:        RE: [SA-list] Up alerts 
Sent by:        Servers Alive Discussion List <salive@woodstone.nu> 

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And did the new type of WHEN for the alerts help? 
 
 
dirk 
 
From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:salive@woodstone.nu 
(mailto:salive@woodstone.nu)] On Behalf Of Vogl, Tom
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 5:46 PM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Up alerts 
 
Maybe easier:  How about an alert check box for &#8220;Any Change of 
State&#8221;. 
Then you would get an email for each change:   DOWN,  UNAVAILABLE,  UP. 
 
 
 
 
From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:salive@woodstone.nu 
(mailto:salive@woodstone.nu)] On Behalf Of ian.g...@okieurope.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:46 AM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: Re: [SA-list] Up alerts 
 
OK, that explains some alerting anomalies that we've been experiencing, where 
an alert is sent out about a service that is down, but never get a subsequent 
up notification. 

I think this exposes a problem that needs to be fixed. Can I request, then, a 
couple of alternatives to fix this? In the "when" tab for alerts, could you 
EITHER change "when back up after a down" to "when back up after a down or an 
unavailable", OR could you add an extra tick box for "and when back after an 
unavailable"? 

Cheers, 

Ian 

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From:        "Dirk Bulinckx" <d...@woodstone.nu (mailto:d...@woodstone.nu)> 
To:        Servers Alive Discussion List <salive@woodstone.nu 
(mailto:salive@woodstone.nu)> 
Date:        19/05/2011 13:47 
Subject:        Re: [SA-list] Up alerts 
Sent by:        Servers Alive Discussion List <salive@woodstone.nu 
(mailto:salive@woodstone.nu)> 
 

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No it won't as there is an intermediate status being UNAVAILABLE 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: ian.g...@okieurope.com (mailto:ian.g...@okieurope.com) 
To: Servers Alive Discussion List (mailto:salive@woodstone.nu) 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:15 PM 
Subject: [SA-list] Up alerts 

Question: if a check is set to alert on down, and when back after a down, would 
it still send an UP alert if the check went through the sequence DOWN - 
UNAVAILABLE - UP? 

Ian 

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