Thank you Dirk and Nathan.

I manualy configured the archiver cmd and the manager web gui reported an
error.  So I backed out from that and went to use the wizard.  Under File
Systems & NFS I configured my NFS share.  When i try to creat a new files
system, I select QFS and check archive, next under Specify Mount Options I
make up a name and for mount point I enter /mnt/nfs (which is where my nfs
was mounted).  In step 4 Select Devices for File Data i select the single
drive available but when i click next i get Device validation failed
"Overlapped data devices detected. Fix the devices below and retry the
operation, or select some other available devices /dev/dsk/c0d0s2" error.  I
have also tried this on a system that has three disks and i get the same
message for each disk i select.  What does this mean?

Ramin



On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Dirk Nitschke <Dirk.Nitschke at sun.com>wrote:

> Hi Ramin!
>
> You have to distiguish between the file system disk cache and the archive
> media. The file system disk cache contains the file system meta data and the
> online files. This file system is of type "samfs" and has to be build on top
> of raw devices. Therefore, an NFS mounted file system does not show up in
> the "New File System" wizard of the GUI.
>
> To create copies of your files in the file system based on policies, you
> need so called archive media. This can be different types of tape media,
> optical media or another disk (this is called disk archiving). In case of
> disk archiving, you have two options: disk archiving to a file system
> mounted on the SAM-QFS server (this may be an NFS mounted file system) or to
> another SAM-QFS server using the sam-rftp protocol.
>
> To configure disk archiving, you can use the "New Disk-based Volume" wizard
> or your favorite text editor and edit /etc/opt/SUNWsamfs/diskvols.conf. I
> prefer to use a subdirectory below the mountpoint of a file system as the
> path for the disk-based volume. In this case you will not screw up your disk
> archive if the disk archive file system is not mounted for some reason.
> Don't forget to adjust your archive policies to use the new disk archive
> volume and to inform the archiver about your changes (samd config).
>
> Regards, Dirk
>
> Am 13.11.2009 um 00:37 schrieb Ramin Rouzbeh:
>
> > Hello Nathan,
> >
> > I took a look at the link you sent and you are right.  However I am using
> SAM-QFS 5.0 so the claim should still be supported.  This is my system
> design: Solaris 10(runing SA-MQFS) --->NFS mount --Linux Gateway--->iscsi
> vault--->storage cloud.  There are issues with connecting the iscsi vault to
> the solris that is why I have the gateway.  From SUN documents i can tell
> that i have to confgiure the QFS file system and when i try to do that
> through the manager I dont see my NFS mount as an available disk to use.  I
> am confused because some say yes it works and some say no it doesnt.  A Sun
> pre sales eng had told me it doesnt.  But the document you show says other.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ramin
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Nathan Schumann <nds at instrumental.com>
> wrote:
> > Ramin,
> >
> > There is no reason that you couldn't use an NFS mounted file system as a
> target for disk archiving.  As long as SAM can write to it, then it should
> be fine.  You will not likely find any documentation for your specific
> configuration since it's an XFS backend and may have support issues.  The
> only time that you need to have a QFS backend for disk archiving is if you
> are using the remote disk archiving feature with sam-rftd.
> >
> > From the 4.6 documentation (
> http://docs.sun.com/source/819-7931-10/chap03.html#pgfId-967150):
> >
> > The file system to which the archive files are written can be any UNIX
> file system. However, if disk archive copies are written to a different
> host, the host must have at least one file system installed on it that is
> compatible with the Sun StorageTek SAM software.
> >
> > To me this says that as long as the NFS file system can be written to and
> read from SAM, then there should be no issues.  NFS is a UNIX file system
> type.
> >
> > Simple configuration:
> >
> > diskvols.conf:
> >
> > archive_disk    /nfs/mount/point
> >
> > archiver.cmd:
> >
> > fs = my_fs
> >        all     .
> >                1       1h
> >
> > vsns
> > all.1   dk      archive_disk
> > endvsns
> >
> > The only other caution I would provided besides a potential support issue
> would be performance of the NFS mounted file system.  Make sure that your
> XFS file system and network can handle the disk archiving operations.
> >
> > Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.
> >
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> > On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Ramin Rouzbeh wrote:
> >
> > Hi David & Pat,
> >
> > Thank you for getting back to me.  I am trying something new and having a
> hard time finding documentation or evidence if such a thing has been done.
>  I keep getting mixed answers.  A SUN solutions engineer told me that it
> couldnt be done because QFS has to be the fiels system at the back end.  I
> have a Solaris 10 box that i have installed SAM-QFS.  On the same box i have
> an NFS mount that has XFS on the disk.  I understand in order to archive to
> a disk i have to configure the QFS filesystem on it.  However I cant see the
> mount throught the SAM manager in the section of creating a new filesystem.
>  Do you guys have some solid documentation you can point me to?  I have
> looked at SUN's documents however its very basic.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ramin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:43 PM, David Gwynne <loki at animata.net> wrote:
> > why not?
> >
> > On 13/11/2009, at 6:46 AM, Ramin Rouzbeh wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Anyone,
> > >
> > > Can SAM-QFS archive to an NFS mount that has XFS on the back end?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ramin
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