John H Terpstra wrote:
On Tuesday 27 May 2008 02:22:15 pm Daniel L. Miller wrote:
I've almost got it.  I swear I've almost got it (and I've been doing a
lot of swearing lately).

Swearing does not help much. :-)

It does too!  I haven't broken a single keyboard!
I re-built my PDC, starting from scratch.  I'm not using the editposix
extensions anymore - I'm using the smbldap tools as shown (I think) in
the Samba by Example.

Now that is a really good guide. (Biased opinion of course!) It is a pity that this book is a little out of date. Someone really should contribute updates to it I guess.
I'd be delighted to - but at the moment it'd be the blind leading the totally clueless.
I really really thought I did everything right.  Obviously I was wrong.

Ah, you mean you have been learning to swim. A good start to using Samba.
Unfortunately I still splash far too much without making efficient forward progress. I can go sideways really good though!
First question:  under this configuration, do I need winbind at all?

That depends! You can probably get away without winbind. If you do need it, you should update the configuration since winbindd has changed since Samba 3.0.20 - the version the book was last updated for.
Something I haven't seen in print yet - so I'll ask the question. WHEN is the appropriate time to use winbind with PDC's and BDC's? If the only (intended) purpose is for member servers and joining Windows NT/2000+ domains - please say so. The 3.2 Using Samba says "...in the majority of cases |winbind| is of primary interest for use with domain member servers (DMSs) and domain member clients (DMCs)." - but that's not quite the same as, "In an exclusively Samba server environment, with a common LDAP backend (replicated or single), winbind offers no additional features and in fact can cause problems. Do NOT use winbind in such a configuration."
If the answer is yes, second question:
wbinfo -t   yields   checking the trust secret via RPC calls succeeded
wbinfo -u   yields   Error looking up domain users

It is no longer possible to use wbinfo on the PDC itself. See Samba Bugzilla bug no. 5453.

I should also mention that I can't add the built-in or local groups
using net.

Correct. For that you will need the new winbind configuration syntax - you are running 3.0.28 aren't you? See man idmap_ldap, or man idmap_tdb.
Now I'm more confused. I'm reviewing those pages - and while I do see some other parameters, they say in their absence they will default to using the ones I've specified. I don't see what I'm missing. I've revised to show:

       idmap domains = AMFESLAN.LOCAL
       idmap alloc backend = ldap
       winbind enum users = Yes
       winbind enum groups = Yes
       idmap alloc config:range = 10000-20000
       idmap alloc config:ldap_url = ldap://127.0.0.1
       idmap alloc config:ldap_base_dn = ou=idmap,dc=amfeslan,dc=local
       idmap config AMFESLAN.LOCAL:range = 10000-20000
       idmap config AMFESLAN.LOCAL:ldap_url = ldap://127.0.0.1
idmap config AMFESLAN.LOCAL:ldap_base_dn = ou=idmap,dc=amfeslan,dc=local
       idmap config AMFESLAN.LOCAL:backend = ldap
       idmap config AMFESLAN.LOCAL:default = yes

Functionality and error messages remain the same.
I hope that helps.
Helps a lot - but I'm needy and greedy and would still appreciate more of your insight.


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Daniel
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