At 20:26 26-10-01, you wrote:

>I suppose all they have to do is turn over their logs... I can access
>msn.com with Netscape 4.7 and 6.1 just fine.

Maybe you should reverse that user-agent rewrite and try again.

>   I guess the Netscrape
>people won't be happy until nobody wants to use their products anymore
>so they can "poor us" themselves all the way to court.

That's not it. It's another example of MS pushing MSIE using poor excuses.
1) It's not XHTML compliant, even though that's the excuse.
2) It blocks browsers based on user-agent strings and tells the unwary they
need to 'upgrade' implying their browser is better.
3) Opera can handle MSN.com just fine!!!

I've made changes to the htmldump of the MSN.com homepage of MSN.com
to make the stylesheet and external JS sheets available, using:
$ wget --user-agent="Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 
4.90)" -O helppane17.js http://www.msn.com/js/helppane17.js

and uploaded it to our site:
http://www.webwereld.nl/msn.com.html

Mozilla will render a big hole, where the picture should be and Opera 
doesn't stack
the tables horizontally. Konquerer makes the main story disappear.

Additionally I've uploaded some screenshots of the blocked messages, in 
case you
missed them:
http://www.webwereld.nl/msncaps/




>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Culbertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, 26 October, 2001 10:51
>Subject: [sambar] MSN Lockout & Browsers
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> > MSN lockout stirs antitrust rumblings
> > By Sandeep Junnarkar and Joe Wilcox
> > Staff Writers, CNET News.com
> > October 26, 2001, 10:15 a.m. PT
> > update As some third-party browsers remain unable to access
>Microsoft's popular MSN.com Web site for a second day, the lockout has
>stirred up further anti-competitive concerns about the giant software
>maker.
> >
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