É, vamos com calma pra fazer uma vez e em definitivo. Chega de gambiarras pela madrugada.
2011/5/25 Solli Honorio <[email protected]>: > Nao Daniel, vc não vai fazer ... temos um problema sim... temos links > quebrados e precisamos resolver. Você saber como resolver isto de maneira > definitiva ? Se souber me mostra, do contrário vai esperar um pouco... > > Solli M. Honório > 2011/5/25 Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani <[email protected]> >> >> Gente vocês fazem muita tempestade por tão pouco meu Deus! >> Deixa do jeito que o Thiago deixou e pronto, não fica mexendo! Vou fazer >> isso hoje a noite. >> >> >> 2011/5/25 Solli Honorio <[email protected]> >>> >>> Em 25 de maio de 2011 19:12, Tiago Peczenyj <[email protected]> >>> escreveu: >>>> >>>> Teoricamente o 301 deveria ser mantido só até a proxima crowlada do >>>> google, depois nenhuma url antiga deveria continuar indexada - a menos >>>> que fosse 302 temporary. >>>> >>> >>> Ok, Como eu faço corrigir todos os links quebrados que estão indexados no >>> google ? Eu devo criar um 301 para estas páginas, monitorar o google até ter >>> estes links atualizados e depois remover o 301 ? >>> >>>> >>>> 2011/5/25 Marcio Ferreira <[email protected]>: >>>> > Continuo sem entender >>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301 >>>> > >>>> > []s, >>>> > >>>> > @_marcioferreira >>>> > Marcio Ferreira >>>> > marciodesouzaferreira.blogspot.com >>>> > >>>> > "Perl lives as the 'toolbox for Unix' " >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 2011/5/25 Solli Honorio <[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> 2011/5/25 Marcio Ferreira <[email protected]> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Não entendi a polêmica do link quebrado, um 301 resolve isso. >>>> >> >>>> >> A polêmica é que ter link quebrado não é legal, e depois ficar >>>> >> mantendo >>>> >> 301 pelo resto da vida do site é pior ainda. >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Ter duas url apontando para o mesmo lugar tbm não é bom. >>>> >> >>>> >> Não quero ter 2 url para o mesmo conteúdo. Quero ter um link >>>> >> universal >>>> >> para o conteúdo, que poderá ser acessado pelas urls /artigos e >>>> >> /equinócio. >>>> >> Veja o nosso problema (legado) de hoje, os links do equinócio atual >>>> >> estão >>>> >> apontando para o link /equinocio/2011/mar/1. E segundo o que estamos >>>> >> fazendo >>>> >> ele será modificado para >>>> >> /artigos/2011/publicidadededadosgovernamentais. E o >>>> >> que ganhamos com isto ? Nada, apenas link quebrado. Ok, vou colocar >>>> >> 301 em >>>> >> todos os artigos do equinócio e ficar mantendo 2 links !? >>>> >> Porque não manter o link no próprio equinócio ? Tudo bem, /1 não é >>>> >> legal >>>> >> para o SEO (se é que isto é verdade, pois tem tantas outras tag no >>>> >> html mais >>>> >> importante), então eu coloco o nome completo neste cara e pronto. Na >>>> >> página >>>> >> do artigo, eu simplesmente aponto para a url correta. >>>> >> Ter 2 urls para o mesmo conteúdo é justamente o que eu quero evitar. >>>> >> Solli >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Há alguém que trabalha com SEO na lista ? Pode dar um pitaco do >>>> >>> dia-dia ? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> []s, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> @_marcioferreira >>>> >>> Marcio Ferreira >>>> >>> marciodesouzaferreira.blogspot.com >>>> >>> >>>> >>> "Perl lives as the 'toolbox for Unix' " >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Em 25 de maio de 2011 14:39, Blabos de Blebe <[email protected]> >>>> >>> escreveu: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Então que se faça assim desde o começo. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Não adianta nada gerar fluxo durante o equinócio e quebrar os links >>>> >>>> depois. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Aliás, qual o problema de ter dois links apontando pro mesmo >>>> >>>> artigo? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011/5/25 Marcio Ferreira <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> > 2011/5/25 Solli Honorio <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> Em 25 de maio de 2011 13:59, Blabos de Blebe <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >> escreveu: >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Desculpem-me a ignorância, mas por que migrar os artigos de >>>> >>>> >>> lugar? >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Eles já não estão lá? Já não estão indexados? Por que não >>>> >>>> >>> simplesmente >>>> >>>> >>> adicionar um link na seção artigos apontando diretamente pros >>>> >>>> >>> artigos >>>> >>>> >>> do Equinócio? >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> Não entendi qual o benefício. >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> Blabos é exatamente isto que eu penso. Vamos estruturar os >>>> >>>> >> equinócios >>>> >>>> >> de >>>> >>>> >> maneira que eu possa encontrar-los em qualquer ano, tipo >>>> >>>> >> /equinocio/2011/setembro/1, etc.... e aí é só fazer apontamentos >>>> >>>> >> etc >>>> >>>> >> ... >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > Hum, melhor forma de estruturar a url seria: >>>> >>>> > sao-paulo.pm.org/titulo-artigo >>>> >>>> > os termos: artigo, equinocio, 2011, setembro, 1 são ruins porque >>>> >>>> > não >>>> >>>> > estão >>>> >>>> > associados (diretamente) ao conteúdo, então acabam diminuindo a >>>> >>>> > relevância >>>> >>>> > dos termos que realmente importam >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > http://www.webfroze.com/how-to-build-an-seo-optimized-website.html >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> Simples assim... >>>> >>>> >> Solli >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> []'s >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> 2011/5/25 Daniel Vinciguerra <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> >>> > Opaaa, >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > To dentro pessoal... se precisarem de ajuda é só me dar um >>>> >>>> >>> > toque. >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > Forte abraço, >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > Daniel Vinciguerra >>>> >>>> >>> > Web Solutions Architect and Co-Owner at Bivee >>>> >>>> >>> > http://github.com/dvinciguerra >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > ________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>> > From: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 12:52:02 -0300 >>>> >>>> >>> > To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> > Subject: Re: [SP-pm] Site SPPM Migrar Artigos >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > Marcio, >>>> >>>> >>> > Coloque isto na lista do hackathon e vamos marcar a data para >>>> >>>> >>> > isto. Em >>>> >>>> >>> > falando nisto, tinha uma thread falando sobre melhorias do >>>> >>>> >>> > site, >>>> >>>> >>> > vamos >>>> >>>> >>> > organizar isto ? Eu me comprometo a encontrar um lugar para o >>>> >>>> >>> > hackathon. >>>> >>>> >>> > Solli M. Honório >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > 2011/5/25 Marcio Ferreira <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > Solli, creio que podemos implementar uma solução (usando >>>> >>>> >>> > SQLite >>>> >>>> >>> > talvez) >>>> >>>> >>> > que >>>> >>>> >>> > faça 301 dos links. >>>> >>>> >>> > Antes de dar um 404, verifica no SQLite se o artigo foi >>>> >>>> >>> > renomeado, >>>> >>>> >>> > algo >>>> >>>> >>> > do >>>> >>>> >>> > gênero. >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > Link quebrado é uma pena grave ao google, então evitemos. >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > []s, >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > @_marcioferreira >>>> >>>> >>> > Marcio Ferreira >>>> >>>> >>> > marciodesouzaferreira.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > "Perl lives as the 'toolbox for Unix' " >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > 2011/5/25 Solli Honorio <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > Mantovani, >>>> >>>> >>> > Isto será feito, mas de uma maneira 'melhor' para evitar de >>>> >>>> >>> > quebrar >>>> >>>> >>> > links no >>>> >>>> >>> > futuro. Eu acho que a maneira como está feita hoje não temos >>>> >>>> >>> > muito >>>> >>>> >>> > o >>>> >>>> >>> > que >>>> >>>> >>> > fazer a não ser assumir que os links indexados serão >>>> >>>> >>> > quebrados, >>>> >>>> >>> > mas >>>> >>>> >>> > acho que >>>> >>>> >>> > podemos organizar para que isto não ocorra no futuro. >>>> >>>> >>> > Até o próximo equinócio, que já estamos organizando, isto >>>> >>>> >>> > deverá >>>> >>>> >>> > estar >>>> >>>> >>> > resolvido (claro que com a ajuda de vocês :D ). >>>> >>>> >>> > Abraços, >>>> >>>> >>> > Solli M. Honório >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > 2011/5/24 Daniel de Oliveira Mantovani >>>> >>>> >>> > <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > Pessoal, tem que migrar os artigos do equinócio para a parte >>>> >>>> >>> > "artigos". >>>> >>>> >>> > Alguém tem tempo de fazer ? >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > -- >>>> >>>> >>> > "If you’ve never written anything thoughtful, then you’ve >>>> >>>> >>> > never >>>> >>>> >>> > had any >>>> >>>> >>> > difficult, important, or interesting thoughts. That’s the >>>> >>>> >>> > secret: >>>> >>>> >>> > people who >>>> >>>> >>> > don’t write, are people who don’t think." >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > =begin disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>>> >>> > =end disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > -- >>>> >>>> >>> > "o animal satisfeito dorme". - Guimarães Rosa >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > =begin disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>>> >>> > =end disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > =begin disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>>> >>> > =end disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > -- >>>> >>>> >>> > "o animal satisfeito dorme". - Guimarães Rosa >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > =begin disclaimer Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: >>>> >>>> >>> > http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] L =end >>>> >>>> >>> > disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > =begin disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>>> >>> > =end disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> >>> =begin disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>>> >>> =end disclaimer >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> -- >>>> >>>> >> "o animal satisfeito dorme". - Guimarães Rosa >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> =begin disclaimer >>>> >>>> >> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> >> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>>> >> =end disclaimer >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > =begin disclaimer >>>> >>>> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>>> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>>> > =end disclaimer >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> =begin disclaimer >>>> >>>> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>>> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>>> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>>> =end disclaimer >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> =begin disclaimer >>>> >>> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >>> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >>> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >>> =end disclaimer >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> "o animal satisfeito dorme". - Guimarães Rosa >>>> >> >>>> >> =begin disclaimer >>>> >> Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> >> SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> >> L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> >> =end disclaimer >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > =begin disclaimer >>>> > Sao Paulo Perl Mongers: http://sao-paulo.pm.org/ >>>> > SaoPaulo-pm mailing list: [email protected] >>>> > L<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saopaulo-pm> >>>> > =end disclaimer >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tiago B. 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