You're absolutely right, Tracey! I went to high school in Newark, NJ. I was on the honor roll, took Trigonometry, advanced Physics and Chemistry, etc. I NEVER let any of my friends know! They were so hard on the ones they knew about, I wasn't getting my butt kicked, too!
_____ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: South Carolina black leaders back Clinton Sounds like a lot of us have been called Oreo... If you ask me, its been for the wrong reasons like liking scifi, different music, science, cultures, etc, and not for what really matters. Tracey Martin wrote: > > None taken, Keith. If anything, I need to mind my posts better. > > KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> wrote: > No offense on that "Oreo" thing. From every thing I've read, you're > proud to be black and support black people. My definition is reserved > for others like the two I mentioned. I've been called Oreo too and > it's never applied. Unlike Rice and Thomas, I'm assuming you don't > pretend to be white, love only white people, and try to dismantle all > programs that could help less fortunate people. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Martin > Now, I've been referred to as an Oreo for most of my conscious life, > so I take umbrage at being classed in with Clarence and Condi. > Otherwise, I won't stop you. You can't jump on a bandwagon just > because the driver is smeone you like the looks of. Said driver could > eb the worst on record, a drunk, suicidal or flat-out blind. > > KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> wrote: > Well, ain't that interesting. I was just in a discussion with someone > over the reasons why Blacks (according to polls) seem to be currently > supporting Hillary over Obama. I contend it's not a self-hatred thing, > but simply that most Blacks simply don't know him well enough to > support him yet. I, for example, always support Blacks when possible, > but the first I heard of Obama was after his DNC speech. The pundits > were telling me he'd probably be our first Black Prez. I didn't know > if the man was left of center, center, right of center, crazy, a > dissembler, what have you. Only now am I getting any picture of his > politics and beliefs. Before that it'd have been foolish to give him > unreserved support. Hillary may be a chameleon, but at least Blacks > have had years to know her, and they feel that despite her admitted > positioning on the issues, she and Bill are overall decent people who > care about us. It's a connection, a likeability factor. Obama > has it, but it's so new people simply h > ave to see what else is there to recommend him. As for supporting him > sight unseen, as it were, that's not a good idea. I mean, you can't > get much blacker than Clarence Thomas or Condolezza Rice, and they're > about as white inside as an Oreo cookie. They'd have been the slaves > on the plantation turning me in as I was plotting an escape or revolt > against Massah. > > All that being said, is Obama losing and going to lose more support > because other Blacks feel he can't win? That's the one reason--outside > of a self-hatred belief that a Black is less qualified than a > white--that I can't support. If we're that fatalistic, a Black > candidate will never make it all the way... > > S. Carolina black leaders back Clinton > By JIM DAVENPORT, Associated Press WriterTue Feb 13, 4:23 PM ET > Two key black political leaders in South Carolina who backed John > Edwards in 2004 said Tuesday they are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham > Clinton's bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. > State Sens. Robert Ford and Darrell Jackson told The Associated Press > they believe Clinton is the only Democrat who can win the presidency. > Both said they had been courted by Illinois Sen. Barack Obama (news, > bio, voting record); Ford said Obama winning the primary would drag > down the rest of the party. > "Then everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said. "Every > Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's > black and he's at the top of the ticket - we'd lose the House, the > Senate and the governors and everything." > "I'm a gambling man. I love Obama," Ford said. "But I'm not going to > kill myself." > Ford said he was swayed by calls from former President Clinton and > Hillary Clinton. He said she has solid support in Charleston, one of > the key regions in the state with a significant black Democratic > voting population. > Jackson, who also is the minister of a large church in the state's > capital city, said Edwards - a South Carolina native who won the > state's Democratic primary three years ago - had his chance. > "I feel as if he's had his opportunity," Jackson said. > The endorsements come just days before Obama and Clinton campaign in > the state for the first time as 2008 candidates. > Support from black voters is key in South Carolina, where 49 percent > of the Democratic presidential primary vote came from blacks in 2004. > The state will host the first Southern primaries for both the GOP and > Democrats in 2008. > Clinton's campaign spokesman Mo Elleithee said they were happy to have > Ford and Jackson's support. > "We're grateful we're starting to get the support of some key > leaders," Elleithee said. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Yahoo! 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