Keith; Most of the time I hear that term, it's from ignorant goons who know nothing about themselves, let alone having never left the boundaries of their own neighborhood...And ANY idiot who accuses someone of 'acting white' or black or anything else on that level has a self-esteem problem they're trying to compensate for...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Acting white", being a "race traitor", or "oreo"--the concepts are among the most difficult to define. For example, I've used standard English all my life, not so much Black street slang. So I "talked white" according to my peers back then. I have a nasal voice, so I sound like a "honky" to some. I got good grades in school and respected my teachers, so was deemed a "kiss up".I did not participate in group gropings of sisters in shop (no kidding--one girl was literally felt up every day, including her underwear being pulled down) or disrespect Sisters, so I was a "punk" to some. I loved Star Trek and all things scifi, comics, cartoons, and science, so I was called "nerd". To most Blacks I was more white than Black. To most whites too. Yet my parents filled my home with Black encyclopedia, Black music, and we went to a Black church. I knew more about my heritage than any of the thugs or athletes who were deemed "real" Blacks. And i daresay I loved my race more deeply than most. No w, many people who know me think I'm *too* focused on Black issues. Yet then we have people like Condoleeza or Clarence Thomas whose credentials in growing up "Black" on the surface are impeccable, yet I'd call them "oreo". Isn't life a strange thing? -------------- Original message -------------- From: Martin None taken, Keith. If anything, I need to mind my posts better. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense on that "Oreo" thing. From every thing I've read, you're proud to be black and support black people. My definition is reserved for others like the two I mentioned. I've been called Oreo too and it's never applied. Unlike Rice and Thomas, I'm assuming you don't pretend to be white, love only white people, and try to dismantle all programs that could help less fortunate people. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Martin Now, I've been referred to as an Oreo for most of my conscious life, so I take umbrage at being classed in with Clarence and Condi. Otherwise, I won't stop you. You can't jump on a bandwagon just because the driver is smeone you like the looks of. Said driver could eb the worst on record, a drunk, suicidal or flat-out blind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, ain't that interesting. I was just in a discussion with someone over the reasons why Blacks (according to polls) seem to be currently supporting Hillary over Obama. I contend it's not a self-hatred thing, but simply that most Blacks simply don't know him well enough to support him yet. I, for example, always support Blacks when possible, but the first I heard of Obama was after his DNC speech. The pundits were telling me he'd probably be our first Black Prez. I didn't know if the man was left of center, center, right of center, crazy, a dissembler, what have you. Only now am I getting any picture of his politics and beliefs. Before that it'd have been foolish to give him unreserved support. Hillary may be a chameleon, but at least Blacks have had years to know her, and they feel that despite her admitted positioning on the issues, she and Bill are overall decent people who care about us. It's a connection, a likeability factor. Obama has it, but it's so new people simply h ave to see what else is there to recommend him. As for supporting him sight unseen, as it were, that's not a good idea. I mean, you can't get much blacker than Clarence Thomas or Condolezza Rice, and they're about as white inside as an Oreo cookie. They'd have been the slaves on the plantation turning me in as I was plotting an escape or revolt against Massah. All that being said, is Obama losing and going to lose more support because other Blacks feel he can't win? That's the one reason--outside of a self-hatred belief that a Black is less qualified than a white--that I can't support. If we're that fatalistic, a Black candidate will never make it all the way... S. Carolina black leaders back Clinton By JIM DAVENPORT, Associated Press WriterTue Feb 13, 4:23 PM ET Two key black political leaders in South Carolina who backed John Edwards in 2004 said Tuesday they are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. State Sens. Robert Ford and Darrell Jackson told The Associated Press they believe Clinton is the only Democrat who can win the presidency. Both said they had been courted by Illinois Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record); Ford said Obama winning the primary would drag down the rest of the party. "Then everybody else on the ballot is doomed," Ford said. "Every Democratic candidate running on that ticket would lose because he's black and he's at the top of the ticket we'd lose the House, the Senate and the governors and everything." "I'm a gambling man. I love Obama," Ford said. "But I'm not going to kill myself." Ford said he was swayed by calls from former President Clinton and Hillary Clinton. He said she has solid support in Charleston, one of the key regions in the state with a significant black Democratic voting population. Jackson, who also is the minister of a large church in the state's capital city, said Edwards a South Carolina native who won the state's Democratic primary three years ago had his chance. "I feel as if he's had his opportunity," Jackson said. The endorsements come just days before Obama and Clinton campaign in the state for the first time as 2008 candidates. Support from black voters is key in South Carolina, where 49 percent of the Democratic presidential primary vote came from blacks in 2004. 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