(applause) Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not meaning to be too blunt, but I feel that Roddenberry was very much like Frank Herbert; he had one series albeit Herbert was a writer...Herbert's greatest claim to fame Was the Dune series while his other books received less than warm praise...That has been the case with Roddenberry and Star Trek...In both Andromeda and Earth Final Conflict, the story lines, like Star Trek, were hammered out forever for money's sake and the audiences could tell...Even after they lost interest in the shows, the producers beat it into the dirt with dumber, formulaic dribble until we were glad to see it leave...No one forgets the last how of a good series...If you have to ask how it ended, it probably was not worth going back to see...I think the concept of good 'telenovels' would keep people interested and you you will end up with a good enough and affordable product to sell in DVD format...Of course, it'll keep a lot of writers employed! Okay, I'm done ranting...
Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keith, I'm still working on that. The single event that lost me on that show was the Emasculation of Tyr. Brother became an emo toward the end. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen. It has to go into the record books as one of the worst slides of a show's quality in scifi history. Remember back when i was asking you, Tracey, to explain the plot? After they went through that stupid glowing tesseract (Route of Ages?) I didn't get that damn show at all! I remember Hunt walking/running through a corridor where he met himself... then all the boring crap on that dessert planet where people/things were always falling from the sky, Roda (sp?) became a drunk, and the whole show looked like a bad Van Damme post-apocalypse movie. I never got that. What the hell was the point of them being on that planet? What was the deal with Dylon seeing himself? What was all the stuff about Trance being a sun? How did it end? Sad that the two shows that continued the Roddenberry legacy--"Andromeda" and "Earth: Final Conflict"--went from good, to stupid in the later seasons. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I was being sarcastic. Everyone knows that show was wrecked once Sorbo > retooled it for his ego > > Tracey > > Martin wrote: > > > > Tracey, again judging from the Skiffy boards, there's no love held for > > Andy-Roaming-All-Over-Plotlines there at all. The Andromeda board > > hasn't had a new posting in over two years. And there's a game running > > between all the boards there, called "Wreck and Repair". Basically, > > you're given a list of ships and a set start value of 25 per ship. You > > get to vote once a day, and only to vote one ship up one point and one > > down the same. Through consensus, Andromeda didn't last the first week. > > > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > > > > > wrote: I have some > > thoughts about the fans dissatisfaction with the direction > > of the show and I wanted to know what you guys thought. I noticed some > > fans balk when they started infusing the storyline with many parallels > > to social issues we face. I've read fans indicate that they do not like > > complex storylines or stories that touch too much on our reality. I > > guess they prefer crap like the last two years of Andromeda. I > > definitively disagree, but I definitely think they loss some of their > > young White male demographic > > > > The second complaint I agree with entirely. I don't understand though. > > Moore cut his teeth on DS9 where they seemed to mix up the seasons with > > rich side stories storylines that would focus on quark, garak, morn, and > > other characters infused throughout the season. On Galactica they would > > give us four great episodes around one storyline and then five seemingly > > pointless filler episodes. I think that significantly contributed to > > viewer erosion. > > > > Why do you think views are getting disenchanted with Galatica? > > > > Tracey > > > > Martin wrote: > > > > > > This has been pretty much a given from most of the fams I'm in touch > > > with through the Skiffy boards. They were all pretty well prepared for > > > the news. Some were kinda glad, because they've been none too pleased > > > with the quality of the last season and change. > > > > > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > > > > > wrote: Sci Fi has > > > announced that Battlestar Galactica will come to an end after > > > its upcoming 22-episode fourth season. The decision was made by exec > > > producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore. > > > > > > WTFrak?! > > > > > > "This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and finally, > > > an end," the duo said in a statement. "Over the course of the last year, > > > the story and the characters have been moving strongly toward that end > > > and we've decided to listen to those internal voices and conclude the > > > show on our own terms. And while we know our fans will be saddened to > > > know the end is coming, they should brace themselves for a wild ride > > > getting there -- we're going out with a bang." > > > > > > The fourth and final season kicks off in early 2008. As previously > > > reported, the two-hour prequel pic "Razor" will premiere in November. > > > > > > Eick and Moore are holding a conference call this afternoon to discuss > > > their decision. If you've got questions, post 'em below. Or if you just > > > want to comment on BSG's passing, that's cool, too. > > > > > > Honestly, the news could be worse. I mean, we've still got 22 episodes > > > left. You can jam a lot of frakkin' closure into 22 episodes. > > > > > > > > > http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Bat > > tlestar-Galactica-End/800016206 > > > > ttlestar-Galactica-End/800016206> > > > > > > > > > > > Battlestar Ending Next Season > > > > > > The producers of SCI FI Channel's Battlestar Galactica confirmed that > > > the upcoming fourth season will be the show's last. Executive producers > > > Ronald Moore and David Eick said that it was a creative decision to end > > > the acclaimed series with the upcoming 22-episode season. > > > > > > "This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and, finally, > > > an end," Eick and Moore said in a statement on May 31. "Over the course > > > of the last year, the story and the characters have been moving strongly > > > toward that end, and we've decided to listen to those internal voices > > > and conclude the show on our own terms. 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