I revisit "She's Gotta Have It" often because I think it is a lovely film. Lee's early films suffer because he had too many tools in his trick bag and he wanted to use them all. Early Spike often went for the showy - the "look-at-me" shot or technique - as if he was trying to show everybody what he had learned in film school. He remains overly fond of his patented tracking walking shot (where actors look as if they are being pulled toward the camera) which I find mostly annoying. Tyler's early films suffer because his trick bag was empty.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would suggest looking at ³She¹s Gotta Have It² and ³School Daze² again. I > did. Overused crane shots and bad editing were staples of his early work. > And by early work -- I mean the first 6 films. The dude who did ³25th Hour² > and ³Inside Man² is a waaaay more mature filmmaker than the dude who did > ³Joe¹s Bed-Stuy Barber Shop², and it¹s supposed to be that way. > > Comparing Tyler to early Spike is compliment to both artists. I¹m saying > Tyler is growing fast, but he is heavy-handedly making Black movies. There > is a market and a demand. Tyler has already identified the market with his > plays and DVDs. The Tyler Perry brand is a great business. Just like Spike > (who, let¹s not forget, now runs and AD agency, is a great > brand/business. Like Spike, once Tyler gets these stories off his chest, he > will get his auteur on and, I believe, we will see some interesting > filmmaking. He had to get out of the dress first (just like Spike had to put > Mars Blackmon down) so that he can focus on his craft. > > I also wanna go back to something said earlier. ³Why Did I Get Married² got > a LOT of advertising (and PR) money put behind it. You could not go to a > major Black website, radio show, or magazine without seeing this film¹s > promo poster or banner ad or hear the radio spot. The cast was on Oprah. Tom > Joyner. Tyler was on CNN. This film was set up lovely. And it paid off. A > lot of Black oriented films are not set up this lovely. > > On 10/17/07 12:43 PM, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Tyler Perry is to new Spike Lee as New Coke is to Coke - a watered > > down substitute. Lee went to NYU film school and has real filmmaking > > chops. Perry didn't and doesn't. His films are so raggedy they > > embarrass me - and EYE ain't got nothing to do with it. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com> , > > Daryle <yokozuna@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Tyler Perry is the new Spike Lee. Nothing more, nothing less. Spike > > did > >> > movies to get people talking and bring the community out. It worked. > >> > > >> > If we're gonna be worried about a Black director's success making > > it hard > >> > for more "serious" Black filmmakers...what about Tim Story? > >> > > >> > On 10/16/07 8:07 PM, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > >> > <tdlists@> wrote: > >> > > >>> > > 90% of the audiences were Black. I think his name carries weight > > in a > >>> > > lot of circles of the African American community. Unfortunately, > > I fear > >>> > > you are right in your prediction of a large volume of > > embarrassing Black > >>> > > films that are similar to some of the books you refer to. I hope > > that > >>> > > without Perry's name on the marquee, success won't be guaranteed. > >>> > > Unfortunately, I fear that is a long-run. > >>> > > > >>> > > ravenadal wrote: > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> Tyler Perry's "Why Did I Get Married?" is number one at the box > >>>> > >> office, taking in $21.4, almost twice as much as this weekend's > > No. 2 > >>>> > >> film, "The Game Plan." > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> While I wish Mr. Perry all the best, his success (this is his > > third > >>>> > >> number one at the box office) does not bode well for serious > > black > >>>> > >> filmmakers, or black filmmakers in general. His success will > > lead to > >>>> > >> something similar to the embarrassing black publishing boom in > > large > >>>> > >> part spawned by the success of Terry McMillan. > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> I am personally curious as to why "Why Did I Get Married?" > > struck gold > >>>> > >> with black (and white) movie-goers while Chris Rock's "I Think I > > Love > >>>> > >> My Wife," tanked. "Married" unseen, I am confident "Wife" is a > >>>> > >> better, more accomplished movie. > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> ~rave! > >>>> > >> > >>>>> > >>> Actually, I think its the same syndrome as the Black Movie > >>>>> > >>> industry. Movies like Soul Plane get multi-million dollar > >>>>> > >>> promotion while movies like Why Did I Get Married don't. To > >>>>> > >>> paraphrase Marshall McCluan(sp?) - the media don't tell us that > > to > >>>>> > >>> think, but they *do* tell us what to think about. > >>>>> > >>> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
