So, who can a person with liberal leanings rally behind? Politicians (Democratic party mostly) mire in double speak to appeal to the masses. There aren't a lot of options. Talk radio (with the exception of Air America) is right wing. In spite of how much the right wing claims it to be, television news has been and is beginning to lean even more to the right with Glenn Beck, Fox News, etc. The right wing machine drummed Dan Rather out in disgrace because the documents he used weren't the originals NOT because they weren't true. It's to the point where left leaning folks have to look HARD for unbiased journalism, so it seems appropriate that they flock to anyone in the news and entertainment media that share their own opinions. Maybe that's the problem of which you speak.
I've often said that America NEEDS a third party. A party of the middle class. Maybe if we ever take the money out of politics through public financing, it would be possible. Gerald Haynes Quotes to live by: "Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two." "Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over." "Continuous improvement is always better than delayed perfection." My comics, music & thoughts: http://www.undergroundartistry.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: SciFi Noir <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:13:07 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher Kicks Butt Honestly, it did ruin the show. While it's true that "Real Time" and "The Daily Show" aren't public forums for the audience's agenda, when you run a show that is live with no commercials and you lean on the audience for laughs, you set the illusion that the show is run by the audience. This doesn't happen on the Daily Show. I've attended some tapings of that show, and you're not sneaking in with huge signs. How this happened at CBS Studios is beyond me. It's a potentially dangerous situation, and in my opinion, Bill handled this horribly. It is a symptom of a larger problem. Bill Maher is a comedian. Jon Stewart is a comedian. Stephen Colbert and Whoopi Goldberg are comedians. Rallying behind comedians who have large audiences because they are saying things that sound like common sense is no more logical than the folks who swear by something because it was on Fox. Corporate people-herding is how we got into this problem (and by problem, I mean the stripping of personal freedoms). Forming a new clique and not questioning the would-be leadership of the new clique is silly. Bill Maher is not a leader. He is a guy with a show. On 10/21/07 4:54 PM, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com> wrote: > I watched, what is not on the clip, is that it went on for 10 or more > minutes. After they kicked out one, another would start up. Things > would appear to settle down and than another heckler would appear to > start up independently. I think there ended up being like seven of > them. It was funny at first, but after a few minutes it kind of got > surreal - at least for me and sad with Maher talking about kicking butt > and shutting them up almost the whole time. It almost ruined the show, > Finally, he told the home viewing audience that they were 9-11 > conspiracy people. He believes that Bush and company were neither > complicit nor conspirators in 911 and that anyone who believes that it > was not just the "Arab Muslims "hating us for our freedom" are just > lunatics and nuts. You could never hear what they were saying so other > than looking like idiots, I can't figure out what the were hoping to > accomplish. > > I believe that the administration that said they "needed a pearl harbor > like event" to push through their agenda were at least opportunistic. > However, those hecklers simply reinforced the perception that anyone who > has questions about 911 is a nut. I hope they do not continue. Even > though Maher refuses to have any discussion on the subject on his show, > what the hecklers did is no solution. I hope they realize this and seek > out another solution to getting their message heard. > > Reece Jennings wrote: >> >> >> A-HO! >> >> Peep what Bill Maher does w/ hecklers in the audience during a live taping >> on Friday night. It's HILARIOUS. >> >> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=B-f_YYEw- QI >> <http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=B-f_YYEw- QI> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > > > > Yahoo! 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