If you have liberal leanings, why are you rallying behind ANYone? The person to rally behind is yourself. We need to stop needing a celebrity to validate our ideas.
About 3 weeks ago, Rush Limbaugh was interviewed about his recent rehab stint. It was an interesting interview, but the end was the best part, where he basically says the radio show is ³a performance². A lot of us take what Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, and Rush say to heart, when really, they¹re just doing what Howard Stern does. Sean Hannity cannot believe 99% of what he says, but if he spoke common sense, he¹d be making what, $35,000 a year on some random AM station? But we, as the listening/viewing public, DO believe him and operate day to day like what these people say matter. The argument is ³well they¹re speaking to millions of people. What they say matters.² By this logic, J. Anthony Brown should be considered one of the most dangerous people in America. The Tom Joyner Morning show reaches like 8 million people a DAY. But it¹s an act. A gag. Something to fill space between ads. That¹s all ANY of these people are, and I am so tired of the books, the interviews, the sound bytes, the websites, the TV shows, the radio shows...after 7 years and all the analysis, the best and most relevant commentary about how paranoid and terror driven our society has become is STILL the movie ³Brazil². Does that mean we rally behind Terry Gilliam? No. It means there are a lot of people out to make a buck or 900 thousand. The song never changes. This is why, personally, I consume more science fiction media than anything else. As I¹ll get to in another post later, I also watch a lot more old movies. Because some of the best social commentary is found there, and attached to really wonderful ideas! Gene Roddenberry once quoted Ray Bradbury as saying: ³Science Fiction may be one of the last places in our society where the philosopher can roam as freely as he chooses². As for the question of the third party, the fact that people still subscribe to the two party illusion is an even BIGGER problem. There are two parties alright, cash rich and credit rich. Old money and new money. I will never forget in 2004 how ³liberal² cats were out here begging Ralph Nader not to run because we ³couldn¹t afford him². What the hell kind of democratic process gets thrown off by MORE CHOICES? This ³I don¹t wanna hear anything a Jets fan has to say because I am a Giants fan til I die² trip we¹re on is ridiculous. Both teams play on the same field! So it is with this democrat/republican nonsense. Laugh all ya want about Rudy or the Law & Order guy -- but last time the Democrats trotted out John Kerry. If Al Gore today announced that he was running for President -- as a Republican -- democrats and liberal types would shut him down. Conservative types would treat him like Peyton Manning coming to the Dolphins. The system does not work. There¹s no changing it from within. We need more common sense. On 10/21/07 9:36 PM, "Gerald Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > So, who can a person with liberal leanings rally behind? Politicians > (Democratic party mostly) mire in double speak to appeal to the masses. There > aren't a lot of options. Talk radio (with the exception of Air America) is > right wing. In spite of how much the right wing claims it to be, television > news has been and is beginning to lean even more to the right with Glenn Beck, > Fox News, etc. The right wing machine drummed Dan Rather out in disgrace > because the documents he used weren't the originals NOT because they weren't > true. It's to the point where left leaning folks have to look HARD for > unbiased journalism, so it seems appropriate that they flock to anyone in the > news and entertainment media that share their own opinions. Maybe that's the > problem of which you speak. > > I've often said that America NEEDS a third party. A party of the middle class. > Maybe if we ever take the money out of politics through public financing, it > would be possible. > > Gerald Haynes > Quotes to live by: > "Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two." > "Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over." > "Continuous improvement is always better than delayed perfection." > > My comics, music & thoughts: > http://www.undergroundartistry.com > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com> > > To: SciFi Noir <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:13:07 PM > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher Kicks Butt > > Honestly, it did ruin the show. > > While it's true that "Real Time" and "The Daily Show" aren't public forums > > for the audience's agenda, when you run a show that is live with no > > commercials and you lean on the audience for laughs, you set the illusion > > that the show is run by the audience. This doesn't happen on the Daily > > Show. I've attended some tapings of that show, and you're not sneaking in > > with huge signs. How this happened at CBS Studios is beyond me. It's a > > potentially dangerous situation, and in my opinion, Bill handled this > > horribly. > > It is a symptom of a larger problem. > > Bill Maher is a comedian. Jon Stewart is a comedian. Stephen Colbert and > > Whoopi Goldberg are comedians. Rallying behind comedians who have large > > audiences because they are saying things that sound like common sense is > > no more logical than the folks who swear by something because it was on > > Fox. Corporate people-herding is how we got into this problem (and by > > problem, I mean the stripping of personal freedoms). Forming a new clique > > and not questioning the would-be leadership of the new clique is silly. > > Bill Maher is not a leader. He is a guy with a show. > > On 10/21/07 4:54 PM, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com> wrote: > >> > I watched, what is not on the clip, is that it went on for 10 or more > >> > minutes. After they kicked out one, another would start up. Things > >> > would appear to settle down and than another heckler would appear to > >> > start up independently. I think there ended up being like seven of > >> > them. It was funny at first, but after a few minutes it kind of got > >> > surreal - at least for me and sad with Maher talking about kicking butt > >> > and shutting them up almost the whole time. It almost ruined the show, > >> > Finally, he told the home viewing audience that they were 9-11 > >> > conspiracy people. He believes that Bush and company were neither > >> > complicit nor conspirators in 911 and that anyone who believes that it > >> > was not just the "Arab Muslims "hating us for our freedom" are just > >> > lunatics and nuts. You could never hear what they were saying so other > >> > than looking like idiots, I can't figure out what the were hoping to > >> > accomplish. > >> > > >> > I believe that the administration that said they "needed a pearl harbor > >> > like event" to push through their agenda were at least opportunistic. > >> > However, those hecklers simply reinforced the perception that anyone who > >> > has questions about 911 is a nut. I hope they do not continue. Even > >> > though Maher refuses to have any discussion on the subject on his show, > >> > what the hecklers did is no solution. I hope they realize this and seek > >> > out another solution to getting their message heard. > >> > > >> > Reece Jennings wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> A-HO! > >>> >> > >>> >> Peep what Bill Maher does w/ hecklers in the audience during a live >>> taping > >>> >> on Friday night. It's HILARIOUS. > >>> >> > >>> >> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=B-f_YYEw- QI > >>> >> <http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=B-f_YYEw- QI> > >>> >> > >>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Yahoo! 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