yeah, "Phantom Menace" did it for me, too. That entire movie was useless and didn't really move the story forward. The *only* things i liked in the entire flick were the fight between Obi Wan, his master, and the evil dude with the cool light staff, and that beautiful silvery spaceship. I always felt Lucas should have introduced young Anakin, then gone ahead and moved him to a young man *in the same movie*. That would have moved up things so that the setup for the Clone Wars would have taken place in Ep 1. They could have fleshed out Anakin's character, showing him being trained and growing in power. Could have taken time to create a better, more logical background story for the war. Ep 2 then would have shown more battles and the actual *war* (the stuff covered by Gendy Tartakovsky's animated series).
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had waited for that moment from the second I began to hear about the origin of Vader and dreamed of the telling of that part of the story since I was a teenager. I figured he was gonna blow it after I saw Phantom Menace but I held on to hope that no one was dumb enough to destroy their own legacy that brutally given their endless options, resources and desire to tell the story. I can't imagine what the hell he was thinking. I really would love to see a real director take that story and remake it from start to finish with real scripts and a greater eye to character development out side the realm of 2D. I think that this is a place Joss Whedon could actually do something brilliant with the source material. B --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ha-ha-ha! It was pretty cheesy wasn't it? I'm still tripping over > Darth "James Earl Jones" Vader, going "Is Padme alright?", then, > finding the truth, "Noooooo!" I actually laughed at that > supposedly poignant scened, with his Frankenstein walk and > melodramatic acting. Ep 3 has a good premise, moments that could > have been so much more. But frankly Lucas isn't a great writer or > director and he couldn't put life into his own characters. Look at > the expression on Obi Wan's face when he watches the recording of > Anankin/Darth killing the younglings. It should have been an > intensely painful moment, yet McGregor--a really good actor--looks > more like he's in a trance, or perhaps trying to remember his > lines. I kept thinking" that's it???" Even if he were in a state > of shock, it just didn't look right. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dude > > Episode 3 is Lucas' last chance to redeem the self rape of what > should have been the the greatest science fiction legacy of all > time. > That Lucas did that to his own work is painful to remember much > less > ever watch again. That said, Let me recap what's wrong with Episode > 3 > with a short rewrite/synopsis of the final moments before Anakin > becomes the greatest villian of all time > > Anakin. "I'm terrified you are going to die like my mother. I had > to > side with the Emperor to save you > Padme: I can't believe you'd do this. You're killing me. Obi-Wan > agrees this is terrible > Anakin: You betrayed me to Obi-Wan. Die bitch Die. > > From highly fear motivated tragic figure to pointless ignominy in > the > space of two minutes. Lucas should have just wiped his but with > Movie > Posters from Episodes 4-6 and filmed himself flushing it. It would > have been better than those first three episodes. I'm still crying > today. > > Bosco > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > "Clone Wars' is some of the best animation I've ever seen, in > terms > > of quality of writing and action. But what else would you expect > > from the man behind "Samurai Jack", another huge fave of mine? > > > > As for the films, i agree, i was underwhelmed with 1 -3, > especially > > 1, which i hated. I've only watched it once, which for me, is > > saying a great deal. Ep 2 is only marginally better, picks up in > > action only in the last 45 minutes, has painfully bad dialog > > between the young lovers. Ep 3 is good, but still has crappy > > dialogue and stilted acting. I was disappointed that some battles > > weren't as long and exciting as the trailers led me to believe > > (when the evil Senator kills the Jedi who confront him, Mace's > > fights with the Senator and Anakin, Obi Wan's battle with > > Grievous). Good movie, would have benefitted from the superiour > > writing that was evident in "The Empire Strikes Back". > > > > But, I will say one thing about the first three flicks: Ep 2 has > > one of the most awesome, pulse-pounding scenes--two actually--in > > all of the films. At the very end when the Jedi are standing > above > > a vast field of spaceships going off to battle, untold thousands > of > > clones marching into them, and the ships blasting off with > > thunderous engines--wow! I remember trying to take the whole > scene > > in in the theatre. And as that trademark music started up and > Yoda > > says "Begun the Clone Wars has", I was thrilled. Watching all the > > ships that we *know* will later become the tools of the Empire? > > Wow. And didja catch Jimmy Smits' character at that moment? He > has > > a look of profound regret on his face at this necessary evil. He > > even pounds the railing of the ledge on which he's standing once, > > as if to say "I hate that it's come to this". Then, they seque > > into Anakin and Padme getting married, which really blew me away. > > > Those last few minutes are the best in the whole film. If only > the > > whole thin > > g could have been on that level. > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I'm in for a Clone Wars feature. I thought the series was pretty > > good and > > gave depth to some of the characters I was actually interested > in. > > I like > > Star Wars a lot and episodes 1-3 really fell short for me, > > personally. I > > thought Clone Wars was better than all three films. Lucas needs > to > > le this > > live action project go. My son and I have been playing the Star > Was > > Lego > > video game for 2 months now, and I have to say...even THAT's > better > > than > > 1-3. > > > > On 2/13/08 10:07 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > The fact that the one guy states "animated films always appeal > to > > a younger > > > audience" kind of troubles me. Such an American attitude. Not > the > > greatest fan > > > of CGI animated films, either. I wish they could have brought > > back genius > > > Gendy Tartakovsky, who did the great "Clone Wars" animated > shorts > > for Cartoon > > > Network. Unless the series is exceptionally good, a CGI series > > aimed at > > > younger audience won't reel me in, especially since I like Star > > Wars, but > > > can't really call myself a fan. > > > > > > ******************************* > > > > > > New `Star Wars' Film Animated Will Be > > > By JAKE COYLE 3 hours ago > > > NEW YORK (AP) The "Star Wars" universe, already substantially > > rendered by > > > computer generated imagery, is giving in all the way to > > animation. > > > "Star Wars: The Clone Wars," an animated film, will open in > > theaters Aug. 15 > > > and be followed by a TV series of the same name, to air on the > > Cartoon Network > > > and TNT this fall. > > > "I felt there were a lot more `Star Wars' stories left to > tell," > > said "Star > > > Wars" creator George Lucas in a statement. "I was eager to > start > > telling some > > > of them through animation and, at the same time, push the > > animation forward." > > > Produced by Lucasfilm Animation, both the film and TV show will > > be distributed > > > through Time Warner Inc., which owns TNT, the Cartoon Network > and > > the film's > > > distributor, Warner Bros. > > > Lucas, who serves as executive producer, is also planning a > > live-action > > > television series spinoff of the franchise, which he began > > working on last > > > fall. The animated series has long been in the works, though > the > > theatrical > > > release was only announced late Tuesday. > > > The movie and subsequent series takes place between the ground > > covered in > > > episodes II and III of the "Star Wars" films: "Attack of the > > Clones" (2002) > > > and "Revenge of the Sith" (2005). It will include cartoon > > versions of many > > > familiar characters, including Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan > Kenobi, > > Padme Amidala > > > and General Grievous. > > > A new character named Ahsoka, Anakin's padawan, will be the > first > > female Jedi > > > to be a character of focus. > > > "It turned out to be an idea that George wanted to explore," > said > > Dave Filoni, > > > director of the "Clone Wars" movie and supervising director of > > the series. > > > "Henry Gillroy (a writer on the series) and I very much wanted > to > > have a > > > female Jedi in more of a lead role because you've had all the > > boys." > > > More than 30 episodes are planned, though Filoni declined to > say > > exactly how > > > long the show will run. He acknowledged it's a finite timeline > > before > > > encroaching on "Revenge of the Sith" story lines. > > > Though the "Star Wars" films have been extraordinarily > lucrative, > > the force > > > won't be expected to be as strong in cartoon form. 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