I love (and agree with) your response.  I must note that I hate what 
has happened to "Vibe" magazine.  I was a subscriber from the first 
issue and it was a revolutionary magazine in my estimation.  Why?  
Because it looked exactly like its white counterpart.  By that, I 
mean it was as thick and had as many ad pages as its white 
equivalent.  The pages were as glossy.  The stories were as in depth 
and well-written.  Flash forward and I am no loner a subscriber.  
Haven't been in years.  My 20 year-old son is a subscriber.  When I 
saw a recent issue, I was shocked by how thin and advertising free 
the magazine was.  It looked like a score of other cheaply printed, 
underfinanced, poorly edited magazines directed a young black folks. 
My disappointment was profound.

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Lockhart, Daryle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 1. "The Hip Hop and R&B Popoulation is a multi-billion dollar,  
> multicultural market with a median age of around 30. The Hip Hop 
and R&B  
> population includes people who  are in the market for yachts as 
well as  
> people who are comparing health insurance providers for their 
families.  
> Vibe is a magazine that needs to actually find its focus right now, 
but  
> please don't marginalize hip-hop. I am of the true hip-hop 
generation, and  
> I own Yamamoto, Armani, And Sean John suits. To  imply that  
because I'm  
> into a specific kind of music I have less taste or class is not 
just  
> insulting, it's inaccurate.
> 
> 2. From Wikipedia: "Vogue publishes a magazine based entirely on 
fashion,  
> life and design." From that entry, you can find Caroline Weber's  
> description of it from the New York Times in December, 2006: "Vogue 
is to  
> our era what the idea of God was, in Voltaire’s famous parlance, 
to his:  
> if it didn’t exist, we would have to invent it. Revered for its 
editorial  
> excellence and its visual panache, the magazine has long functioned 
as a  
> bible for anyone worshiping at the altar of luxury, celebrity and 
style.  
> And while we perhaps take for granted the extent to which this 
trinity  
> dominates consumer culture today, Vogue’s role in catalyzing its 
rise to  
> pre-eminence cannot be underestimated."
> 
> This is not a magazine for the beautiful  upscale put together 
woman. It  
> is a series of historical documents that will be part of many 
other  
> documents that people in the future wil look back upon and judge us 
with.  
> How do I know this?  because if you  want to  know what people did 
for a  
> living in the 60s you look up documents to that  effect. If you  
want to   
> know what they  LOOKED LIKE, you  look up old magazines. THis is 
why   
> EBONY magazine was so important, because before it was invented, 
You   
> could look  back and assume taht "LIFE" magazine implied what all 
LIFE  
> looked like. Which was mostly white. NOW you can look back and see 
that  
> not only was Star Trek important, but that Nichelle Nichols was on 
Star  
> Trek, and you can read an interview with her in her own words.
> 
> Vogue Magazine, and any magazine with a high ciurculation, has two  
> responsibilities: one to its advertisers, and two to be accurate. 
In the  
> case of Fashion magazines, in the 21st Century, there is no excuse. 
If  
> General Motors and Proctor & Gamble can have ethnic peopole in 
THEIR ads,  
> and they are selling stuff people actually USE, then surely these 
fashion  
> brands can knock it off. The editorial staffs of these magazine 
must first  
> make their magazine more reflective of the fantasy they are trying 
to   
> sell. White women wish they  had Halle Berry's body  just as much 
as they  
> wish they had Heidi Klum's. Thandie Newton looks great in Gucci. 
Alek Wek  
> and Oluchi Onweagba have bodies that illustrate a designer's new 
dress  
> just as well as Nadine Wolfbeisser or Victoria Wallace -- if not 
better!
> 
> It's easy to dismiss this as "it's just  fashion" --  believe me I  
> understand -- but in many cases, it's not. It's culture. It's 
history.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:26:24 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 5/14/2008 10:05:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > Good question. The answer is: "Vogue" has a larger circulation 
than
> > "Vibe." And so, if you're going to be the official documentation 
of
> > fashion culture, having nothing but white people in your photo 
essays is
> > Completely inaccurate. The fact is that until somebody Black, 
Brown, or
> > Asian rocks your design, it's not hot.
> >
> > Vibe does not cater to everyone. They cater the hip hop and R&B  
> > population.
> > The urban market. That is very limiting. Vogue markets itself as 
the  
> > magazine
> > for the beautiful upscale put together woman.  It can add more 
non white
> > models. However it is not going to add models that look as if 
they just  
> > stared in a
> > hip hop video. It does not matter the color of the model it is 
the image  
> > that
> > you portray. Just look at the models in Ebony and Essence. They 
have a  
> > certain
> > look. It has changed over the years. You will still not see a lot 
of  
> > models
> > with braids in there either.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking as we 
used  
> when we created them." -- Albert Einstein
>


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