I admire the way Tyler Perry has built his brand. I watch his plays and movies trying to decipher how and why he connects to his audiences. I am curious to see how his "crossover" movie THE FAMILY THAT PREYS performs. If he manages to snare a white audience and cross the $50 million barrier (his five films average $48.2), he will truly have arrived in Hollywood.
~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > These programs may be garbage but they have had better opening > weekends than projects we all thought were brilliant. > > Tyler Perry attaching his name to a project means 25 million right > now. Spike Lee attaching his name to a project ALMOST means that > people will NOT go see it. > > I am a bigger fan of Spike Lee films after and including 25th Hour > than I am his more popular work personally, and I don't particularly > like Tyler Perry pictures...but then, my favorite picture list > include "Blade Runner" and "Brazil". I'm not exactly his target > audience. > > I don't want to turn this into a Tyler Perry discussion. The point is > that he can get pictures made. He can get a TV series green- lighted > and renewed. A lot of Black people cannot say the same....so the > point is not what is he doing WRONG. The question is: what is he > doing right? > > > On Sep 3, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Omari Confer wrote: > > > > > Those programs are trully garbage....but Perry has a lock on cinema > > that the studios cant deny... > > > > so i say... > > > > > > Black hollywood.. > > > > Stop your whining!!!! > > > > c w m > > > > > > On 9/3/08, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am speaking out of my dislike of classic cinema like DIARY OF A MAD > > BLACK WOMAN and classic television like "The House of Payne." > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <daryle@> wrote: > > > > > > ...are you speaking out of your dislike for Tyler's work, or his > > > business? > > > > > > On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:35 PM, ravenadal wrote: > > > > > > > Tyler Perry is the exception that proves the rule. He will remain > > an > > > > exception until there are two (and, frankly, I think ONE Tyler > > Perry > > > > is too much). > > > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Omari Confer" <clockworkman@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry it took me so long to respond... > > > > > > > > > > Tyler Perry proved that there is no excuse. > > > > > > > > > > People dont green light Spike Lee because he is Spike Lee.... > > > > > > > > > > it comes with baggage...including Black baggage.. > > > > > > > > > > c w m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/08, ravenadal <ravenadal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > the missing ingredient...money. > > > > > > > > > > > > If the studios would green light these movies they would get > > > > made. In > > > > > > his interviews for his new movie Spike Lee bemoans the fact > > that > > > > even > > > > > > after producing the most financially successful movie of his > > > > career > > > > > > (THE INSIDE MAN)he STILL could not get studio financing for > > his > > > > next > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > You might suggest these black actors, writers, directors put > > up > > > > their > > > > > > own money but that is a fool's errand. In the rigged game of > > film > > > > > > financing and film distribution an idealistic fool and his > > money > > > > would > > > > > > be quickly separated. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2% > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Omari > > > > > > Confer" <clockworkman@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that Black Hollywood is too busy pouting to put out > > > > great > > > > > > > work...with great actors > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have writers... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have directors.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have actors.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wtf? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/31/08, KeithBJohnson@ <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah i loved Brooks' turn as a criminal boss in "The Big > > Hit". > > > > > > So sad > > > > > > > > he doesn't do more movies.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > > From: "Omari Confer" <clockworkman@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That I agree with.....Though he might be better as a > > villian > > > > of some > > > > > > > > kind...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/30/08, KeithBJohnson@ <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> There's an interesting idea! > > > > > > > >> Actually, Brooks was one of my first choices for > > Professor > > > > > > Robinson! He > > > > > > > >> and Angela Bassett would be quite a pair. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > >> From: "ravenadal" <ravenadal@> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Excellent casting in the Age of Obama. May I suggest > > Avery > > > > Brooks as > > > > > > > >> the voice of the Robot? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> ~rave! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2% > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><scifinoir2% > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > > >> KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > My picks: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Professor John Robinson - Chiwetel Ejiofor; alternate, > > Don > > > > Cheadle > > > > > > > >> > Maureen Robinson - Sanaa Lathan; alternate, N'Bush > > Wright > > > > > > > >> > Judy Robinson - Camille Windbush ("The Bernie Mac > > Show") > > > > > > > >> > Penny Robinson - Keke Palmer > > > > > > > >> > Wilhelmina "Will" Robinson - China McClain (the smart > > > > aleck girl > > > > > > > >> from "House of Payne"; not the best actress, but would > > make a > > > > > > suitably > > > > > > > >> irritating genius kid) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Major Don West - Richard Brooks > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Professor Zachary Smith - Joe Morton > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > >> > From: "Omari Confer" <clockworkman@> > > > > > > > >> > William Hurt cant act......he plays William Hurt in > > all hi > > > > s > > > > > > movies. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Alright listers... > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Cast the new and improved Lost in Space Movie!!! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Maureen Robinson > > > > > > > >> > Major Don West > > > > > > > >> > Judy Robinson > > > > > > > >> > Penny Robinson > > > > > > > >> > Professor John Robinson > > > > > > > >> > Will Robinson > > > > > > > >> > Professor Zachary Smith > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Best Cast wins a prize...a date with Gymfig!!! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > lol > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > On 8/30/08, ravenadal <ravenadal@> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > Remarkably, the last remake of LOST IN SPACE featured > > both > > > > William > > > > > > > >> > Hurt AND Gary Oldman. Of course, it also starred Matt > > > > LeBlanc. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2% > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><scifinoir2% > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > > >> "Omari Confer" <clockworkman@> > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > They should remake Lost in Space....maybe put > > Malkovich > > > > in it... > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > mmmm...happy thoughts... > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > c w m > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > On 8/29/08, KeithBJohnson@ <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > "Lost in Space"? > > > > > > > >> > > > "Far Out Space Nuts"? > > > > > > > >> > > > "Josie and the Pussycats in Outer Space"? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > >> > > > From: Martin <truthseeker_013@> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > It's striking me as some other SF show as well, > > Omari. > > > > Just > > > > > > > >> > can't place > > > > > > > >> > > > it. I need to hit up some folks on this. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > --- On *Fri, 8/29/08, Omari Confer <clockworkman@>* > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > From: O mari Confer <clockworkman@> > > > > > > > >> > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Stargate: Universe (stop me > > if > > > > we have > > > > > > > >> > talked about > > > > > > > >> > > > this) > > > > > > > >> > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2% > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><scifinoir2% > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > >> > > > Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:51 AM > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Why does the premise of the new Stargate show sound > > > > just like > > > > > > > >> > Star Trek > > > > > > > >> > > > Voyager? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > -- > > > > > > > >> > > > cwm blog > > > > > > > >> > > > http://centralheati ngblog.blogspot. > > > > > > > >> > com<http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com/> > > > > > > > >> > > > STRING THEORY > > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.stringth eory.mypodcast. > > > > > > > >> > com<http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com/> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > > > > >> > > cwm blog > > > > > > > >> > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > > > > > > > >> > > STRING THEORY > > > > > > > >> > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > > > >> > cwm blog > > > > > > > >> > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > > > > > > > >> > STRING THEORY > > > > > > > >> > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > cwm blog > > > > > > > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > STRING THEORY > > > > > > > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > cwm blog > > > > > > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > > > > > > > STRING THEORY > > > > > > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > cwm blog > > > > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > > > > > STRING THEORY > > > > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > cwm blog > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > > STRING THEORY > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com > > > > >