--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> These programs may be garbage but they have had better opening
> weekends than projects we all thought were brilliant.
>
> Tyler Perry attaching his name to a project means 25 million
right
> now. Spike Lee attaching his name to a project ALMOST means that
> people will NOT go see it.
>
> I am a bigger fan of Spike Lee films after and including 25th Hour
> than I am his more popular work personally, and I don't
particularly
> like Tyler Perry pictures...but then, my favorite picture list
> include "Blade Runner" and "Brazil". I'm not exactly his target
> audience.
>
> I don't want to turn this into a Tyler Perry discussion. The point
is
> that he can get pictures made. He can get a TV series green-
lighted
> and renewed. A lot of Black people cannot say the same....so the
> point is not what is he doing WRONG. The question is: what is he
> doing right?
Yes, I agree he's doing great business however I don't know that his
success results can be replicated under control conditions. He wore
out shoe leather building a reputation within a very specific genre
of work.
The key was that he managed to translate from one medium to another
with great success AND got his audience, a rabidly loyal one -
underserved at that, to follow. He made plays that played like
sitcoms. that translated not so well to movies. However, they were an
EASY sell on home video since that was essentially returning his work
to its roots.
Aside from Soulja Boy, who else can copy that?
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Omari Confer wrote:
>
> >
> > Those programs are trully garbage....but Perry has a lock on
cinema
> > that the studios cant deny...
> >
> > so i say...
> >
> >
> > Black hollywood..
> >
> > Stop your whining!!!!
> >
> > c w m
> >
> >
> > On 9/3/08, ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am speaking out of my dislike of classic cinema like DIARY OF A
MAD
> > BLACK WOMAN and classic television like "The House of Payne."
> >
> > ~(no)rave!
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <daryle@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > ...are you speaking out of your dislike for Tyler's work, or his
> > > business?
> > >
> > > On Sep 3, 2008, at 2:35 PM, ravenadal wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tyler Perry is the exception that proves the rule. He will
remain
> > an
> > > > exception until there are two (and, frankly, I think ONE Tyler
> > Perry
> > > > is too much).
> > > >
> > > > ~(no)rave!
> > > >
> > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Omari Confer"
<clockworkman@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry it took me so long to respond...
> > > > >
> > > > > Tyler Perry proved that there is no excuse.
> > > > >
> > > > > People dont green light Spike Lee because he is Spike
Lee....
> > > > >
> > > > > it comes with baggage...including Black baggage..
> > > > >
> > > > > c w m
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/31/08, ravenadal <ravenadal@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the missing ingredient...money.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the studios would green light these movies they would
get
> > > > made. In
> > > > > > his interviews for his new movie Spike Lee bemoans the
fact
> > that
> > > > even
> > > > > > after producing the most financially successful movie of
his
> > > > career
> > > > > > (THE INSIDE MAN)he STILL could not get studio financing
for
> > his
> > > > next
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You might suggest these black actors, writers, directors
put
> > up
> > > > their
> > > > > > own money but that is a fool's errand. In the rigged game
of
> > film
> > > > > > financing and film distribution an idealistic fool and his
> > money
> > > > would
> > > > > > be quickly separated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~(no)rave!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Omari
> > > > > > Confer" <clockworkman@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think that Black Hollywood is too busy pouting to put
out
> > > > great
> > > > > > > work...with great actors
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have writers...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have directors..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We have actors..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wtf?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/31/08, KeithBJohnson@ <KeithBJohnson@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah i loved Brooks' turn as a criminal boss in "The
Big
> > Hit".
> > > > > > So sad
> > > > > > > > he doesn't do more movies....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > > From: "Omari Confer" <clockworkman@>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That I agree with.....Though he might be better as a
> > villian
> > > > of some
> > > > > > > > kind......
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/30/08, KeithBJohnson@ <KeithBJohnson@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> There's an interesting idea!
> > > > > > > >> Actually, Brooks was one of my first choices for
> > Professor
> > > > > > Robinson! He
> > > > > > > >> and Angela Bassett would be quite a pair.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > >> From: "ravenadal" <ravenadal@>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Excellent casting in the Age of Obama. May I suggest
> > Avery
> > > > Brooks as
> > > > > > > >> the voice of the Robot?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> ~rave!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com><scifinoir2%
> > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > > >> KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > My picks:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Professor John Robinson - Chiwetel Ejiofor;
alternate,
> > Don
> > > > Cheadle
> > > > > > > >> > Maureen Robinson - Sanaa Lathan; alternate, N'Bush
> > Wright
> > > > > > > >> > Judy Robinson - Camille Windbush ("The Bernie Mac
> > Show")
> > > > > > > >> > Penny Robinson - Keke Palmer
> > > > > > > >> > Wilhelmina "Will" Robinson - China McClain (the
smart
> > > > aleck girl
> > > > > > > >> from "House of Payne"; not the best actress, but
would
> > make a
> > > > > > suitably
> > > > > > > >> irritating genius kid)
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Major Don West - Richard Brooks
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Professor Zachary Smith - Joe Morton
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > >> > From: "Omari Confer" <clockworkman@>
> > > > > > > >> > William Hurt cant act......he plays William Hurt in
> > all hi
> > > > s
> > > > > > movies.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Alright listers...
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Cast the new and improved Lost in Space Movie!!!
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Maureen Robinson
> > > > > > > >> > Major Don West
> > > > > > > >> > Judy Robinson
> > > > > > > >> > Penny Robinson
> > > > > > > >> > Professor John Robinson
> > > > > > > >> > Will Robinson
> > > > > > > >> > Professor Zachary Smith
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Best Cast wins a prize...a date with Gymfig!!!
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > lol
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > On 8/30/08, ravenadal <ravenadal@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > Remarkably, the last remake of LOST IN SPACE
featured
> > both
> > > > William
> > > > > > > >> > Hurt AND Gary Oldman. Of course, it also starred
Matt
> > > > LeBlanc.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > ~(no)rave!
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com><scifinoir2%
> > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > > >> "Omari Confer" <clockworkman@>
> > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > They should remake Lost in Space....maybe put
> > Malkovich
> > > > in it...
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > mmmm...happy thoughts...
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > c w m
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > On 8/29/08, KeithBJohnson@ <KeithBJohnson@>
wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > "Lost in Space"?
> > > > > > > >> > > > "Far Out Space Nuts"?
> > > > > > > >> > > > "Josie and the Pussycats in Outer Space"?
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > >> > > > From: Martin <truthseeker_013@>
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > It's striking me as some other SF show as well,
> > Omari.
> > > > Just
> > > > > > > >> > can't place
> > > > > > > >> > > > it. I need to hit up some folks on this.
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > --- On *Fri, 8/29/08, Omari Confer
<clockworkman@>*
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > From: O mari Confer <clockworkman@>
> > > > > > > >> > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Stargate: Universe (stop
me
> > if
> > > > we have
> > > > > > > >> > talked about
> > > > > > > >> > > > this)
> > > > > > > >> > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com><scifinoir2%
> > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > >> > > > Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:51 AM
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Why does the premise of the new Stargate show
sound
> > > > just like
> > > > > > > >> > Star Trek
> > > > > > > >> > > > Voyager?
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > --
> > > > > > > >> > > > cwm blog
> > > > > > > >> > > > http://centralheati ngblog.blogspot.
> > > > > > > >> > com<http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com/>
> > > > > > > >> > > > STRING THEORY
> > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.stringth eory.mypodcast.
> > > > > > > >> > com<http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com/>
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > --
> > > > > > > >> > > cwm blog
> > > > > > > >> > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com
> > > > > > > >> > > STRING THEORY
> > > > > > > >> > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > --
> > > > > > > >> > cwm blog
> > > > > > > >> > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com
> > > > > > > >> > STRING THEORY
> > > > > > > >> > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > cwm blog
> > > > > > > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com
> > > > > > > > STRING THEORY
> > > > > > > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > cwm blog
> > > > > > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com
> > > > > > > STRING THEORY
> > > > > > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > cwm blog
> > > > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com
> > > > > STRING THEORY
> > > > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > cwm blog
> > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com
> > STRING THEORY
> > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com
> >
> >
>
