The new Johnny Quest was radically different between seasons one and two. It had a troubled production, cost a lot of money, but disappointed Cartoon Network in its performance. There were a lot of fights on the creative teams as to everything from Johnny's age (as old as 14 in the first season, a good four years older than the original series), to the addition of the young girl Jessie (Race's daughter), to even as to whether Hadji should still have his mental powers for doing stuff like that famous rope trick. The creative teams differed so much that the two seasons are completely different. I actually liked the look of the first season with its rich color palette, but others preferrred the second's more basic look, a return to the original series. I also liked the emphasis more on Dr. Quest and Race in the first season, tiring a bit of the kids doing everything (even though it is called "The New Adventures of Johnny Quest"). The stories interested more also in season one, though most people like season two better. Either way, I *despised* the addition of "Questworld", that overused CGI world where the characters played around in cyberspace. It was really dull. Read about the whole Quest story here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Adventures_of_Jonny_Quest
-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Omari Confer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I liked it...but it changed at a certain point.... On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Ren and Stimpy" was an odd show. I wasn't a big fan of it. So, you didn't like the new Johnny Quest? -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Omari Confer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah the new Quest had its soul stolen from it....just like.. Ren and Stimpy Pee Wee's playhouse Reboot the list goes on..... On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree. It's been a delight. Nothing I've seen recently is on the level of Samurai Jack or Avatar at its best, but I like the family, the action, and the colors. The overall animation is a bit off, as some have said. It's as if they're trying to go for the look of the old Johnny Quest, which has a very unique style, but not quite reaching it. But still a good show, and like I said earlier, it's wild to me that Friday nights on Cartoon Network are now more enjoyable to me than SciFi Channel's lineup. You know, I was up very late last night watching the original Johnny Quest on Boomerang. And while some eps are indeed dated, it still holds up well in some ways. I still love the unique animation style, the music, some of the villains. And I always like a cartoon where people actually die, not because i'm bloodthirsty, but because it's just more realistic. Yeah, there are the shows like the one with the African natives shouting in their guttural language and waving spears menacingly, but it's still a good show. Did you see the remake of the series in the mid '90s? It was pretty good too. The first season was great, the second was noticeably inferiour in quality and writing. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I loved Johnny Quest but it's a product of its time. Plus the Venture Brothers has basically ruined it for me. I like that the Secret Saturdays is going for the Doc Savage/Tom Strong science hero vibe. Lots of cool tech, family dynamic and anthropomorphic sidekick(s). It works for me. It's not on the level of Avatar, Samurai Jack or the best of the DC Animated Universe but it's entertaining, has a good overall story arc and competent villains. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Omari Confer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chewbacca is the reason I will never see it again...black characters or > not... > > (id rather see jar jar....no i take that back...) > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > You win with the Johnny Ques t ref. EXACTLY. PERFECT refer ence. NICE one. > > > > You don't have to be "Space Ghost" to be for kids. You can take science > > seriously. I think, in that regard, I agree. Secret Saturdays is soft and > > has a little way to go. For one, maybe the Chewbacca dude has to go. > > > > On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Omari Confer wrote: > > > > > > Xhaolin Showdown is a good example of what I am talking about. Let me > > redefine soft. > > > > Johnny Quest was cold because the charaters are kid friendly but the > > science and tech was "hard". > > > > Any genre show has to have some kind of "hard" line for the sake of > > validity and watchability. Without i...it might as well be teletubbies. > > > > Plus...we all know the key to good childrens programming is to pepper > > enough for adults to enjoy. > > > > Its just not enough...id rather watch powerpuff reruns..... > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM, B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I hear you. Dark can lose an audience and this is a fun kidcentric > >> show.I don't think the target audience would be too pleased if this > >> started looking like Evangelion or Full Metal Alchemist. LOL! > >> > >> You can do dark and still make a fun show. Xhaolin Showdown's > >> villains were pretty nasty and when Wuya won her version of the world > >> was pretty dark but the show remained pretty light. > >> > >> > >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com>, Daryle BR>> >> Lockhart <daryle@> wrote: > >> > > >> > You're waiting on the Warren Ellis written Secret Saturdays > >> episodes, > >> > perhaps? > >> > > >> > The show's softness is actually one of its better qualities. it > >> > maintains itself as a kids show. there is still a large audience > >> of > >> > kids who haven't seen a lot of anime, so getting too dark could > >> be > >> > a problem. I say let kids get their feet wet with the black > >> > character show and then get really dark. > >> > > >> > I am a little amused that an average Secret Saturdays episode is > >> > better than almost any Sci-Fi Channel Original. I will buy a Doc > >> > action figure when it comes out! > >> > > >> > > > > > On Nov 16, 2008, at 1:32 AM, Omari Confer wrote: > >> > > >> gt; > > >> > > The show is kinda soft to be honest. It plays with dark themes > >> but > >> > > doesnt really deliver.... > >> > > > >> > > c w m > >> > > > >> > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:23 PM, <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I love the show too. I believe they said that Doc is trained in > >> > > fourteen different martial arts styles, and to boot, he uses a > >> > > power glove he invented to increase his strength. But you're > >> right > >> > > that he could do some more butt kicking. > >> > > > >> > > -------------- Original message -------------- > >> > > From: "B. Smith" <daikaiju66@> > >> > > > >> > > I'm hoo ked on Secret Saturdays. It's really great to see a black > >> > > science based hero and the family dynamic really adds to the > >> show. I > >> > > just wish Doc was more of a buttkicker at times. > >> > > > >> > > I forgot about Brave and the Bold but I managed to Tivo the > >> repeat > >> > > today. > >> > > > >> > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com <scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com>, > >> KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > i loved LSH, dropped some glowing reviews, but man, what > >> happened to > >> > > it? Hate that it was discontinued. Guess it goes on the growing > >> pile > >> > > of fantastic shows too soon cancelled, along with Samurai Jack. > >> > > > The drawing on Secret Saturdays is a bit odd, i'll admit. It > >> seems > >> > > almost too 2D at times. But I like the characters and the > >> stories, and > >> > > i like seeing people of color (a Black man as the supergenius > >> lead?! > >> > > These are truly the days of Obama!) I also like that the > >> storylines > >> > > evolve and are more than just "monster of the week". Last night > >> they > >> > > reve aled that one of the main bad guy's henchmen might be the > >> brother > >> > > > >> > > of the heroine, which is cool. My only real complaint is that > >> there's > >> > gt; really only one villain and he's central to every story. Not that > >> > > that's always a b ad thing, but i often tire of cartoons where > >> every > >> > > single show is a fight with the same bad guy. Limits creativity of > >> > > storytelling... > >> > > > > >> > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > >> > > > From: Daryle Lockhart <daryle@> > >> > > > Most accurate review. The best show to compare this with is > >> LSH. I > >> > > used to joke about Legion being the only soap opera I've ever been > >> > > totally hooked on. I totally enjoyed Brave and the Bold, I > >> thought the > >> > > narrative style was great and the inside jokes were fantastic. I > >> also > >> > > really like what CN has done in creating a Friday Night lineup > >> > > (Batman, Secret Saturda ys, then Clone Wars ). It's funny, I love > >> the > >> > > retro design style on this show, but I'm still not sold on > >> Secret > >> > > BR>Saturdays' drawings. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:24 PM, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > I hear ya! Best toon I've seen since the Legion of Superheroes. > >> > > > > >> > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > >> > > > From: Justin Mohareb <justinmohareb@> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > It was nine kinds of awesome, even though my pvr crapped out > >> five BR>> >> > > minutes from the end. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Blue Beetle III, henchmen with their names on their chests, > >> Kanjar > >> > > Ro, and that's just the first episode. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > It's like they put electrodes into my nerd pleasure centre. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Justin > >> > > > > >> > > > On 14-Nov-08, at 8:45 PM, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > You bet. What'd you think? > >> > > > > >> > > > -------------- Original message ---------- ---- > >> > > > From: Justin Mohareb lt;justinmohareb@> > >> > > > > >> > > > Awesome. Thanks for the heads up. I've been waiting to see > >> this > >> > > since > >> > > > I heard about it. > >> > > > > >> > > > Justin Mohareb > >> > > > > >> > > > On 14-Nov-08, at 7:58 PM, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > cwm blog > >> > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > >> > > STRING THEORY > >> > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > cwm blog > > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > > STRING THEORY > > http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > cwm blog > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > STRING THEORY > http://www.stringtheory.my podcast.com > -- cwm blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com -- cwm blog http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com STRING THEORY http://www.stringtheory.mypodcast.com
