Adrianne, Geordi I loved as well, especially when they pulled him away from 
being the navigator and made him chief engineer. Worf, I did not and may never 
like, because he's Klingon, and I never did like Klingons in the series. Always 
wanted to see more of the Romulans, personally, especially when Next Gen came 
out.





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 Date : Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:59:39 -0500

 From : "Adrianne Brennan" <adrianne.bren...@gmail.com>

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


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still--in the Star Trek universe! I think they were great!
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:57 PM,  wrote:

> I'll count it more progress when we can get someone other than Will Smith
> to lead all the scifi movies! :)
>
> You're right on about the original Trek, which showed some blacks in a
> positive light. I mean, even though the guy nutted up, they gave us Richard
> Daystrom, and towering genius whose earlier work was the basis for all
> Federation computer tech. And then there was the commodore in "Court
> Martial" who was Kirk's superiour, and who was a former starship captain
> himself. That's a big deal back in the '60s. There was also Mr. Boma, the
> brother who defied Spock in "Galileo Seven", but his insubordinate character
> irritated me.
>
> Women of course got short shrift in the OS: Uhura really only got to say
> "Hailing frequencies open", Yeoman Rand was used as eye candy, then
> summarily dumped, and Majel Roddenberry got busted all the way from bridge
> officer to a nurse assisting McCoy. And there's that insulting show
> "Turnabout Intruder", where Janice Lester goes bonkers to take over Kirk's
> body because Starfleet doesn't promote women to be starship captains. Kirk's
> last line "Her life could have been as full as any woman's..." is wild.
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Augustus Augustus 
> > GTW,
> >
> > u r so right, but u know, i was hoping that since America did elect
> Barack, that
> > they (the SciFi world) would at least say, "o.k., let's at least make an
> attempt
> > 2 recognize that there are Black SciFi fans." look at the big
> blockbuster's of
> > late. ID4 with Will Smith. Hancock, with Will Smith. The Matrix
> Trilogy with
> > Laurence Fishburn. while i know that in the last
> > example........................was a supporting character, still, there
> are
> > Black people who like SciFi. DTESS sucked, except 4 little Mr. Smith.
> Even
> > The Spirit has Sam Jackson (love the guy). i think that is one of the
> original
> > reasons that i enjoyed the OS of Trek. Uhura. then u had a few ep's
> with Black
> > actors who DID NOT DIE. plus, OS was really one of the first 2 actually
> say
> > that Blacks were even alive in the future! but i guess that that is y u
> say,
> > being a Black SciFi fan is not easy.
> >
> > Fate.
> >
> > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, gwashin...@aol.com  wrote:
> > From: gwashin...@aol.com 
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 2:58 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Fate, I feel the same. And it's the reason why I now have a
> > love/hate relationship with the whole sci-fi/fantasy/ comic book gendre.
> > Everytime I get into something that makes me feel good about sci-fi
> (namely the
> > Coyote, Honor Harrition series) something comes along (like the Dr Who
> thing) to
> > spoil it.
> >
> >
> >
> > But no one said being a black sci-fi fan was easy. :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -GTW
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/4/09 1:50:02 PM, jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > GTW,
> >
> >
> >
> > if that is indeed the case, then i will have 2 find other shows then 2
> watch.
> > sorry, but being Black, i kind of look 4 shows that at least have someone
> who
> > resembles me some kind of way.
> >
> >
> >
> > Fate.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, gwashin...@aol. com  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > From: gwashin...@aol. com 
> >
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
> >
> > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> >
> > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:28 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually. From what I've heard they all but edited her out of the new
> season of
> > Torchwood. And you won't see her again soon in any new episodes of Dr
> Who (past
> > those now shown on BBC america) either. Sorry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -GTW
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/3/09 9:57:00 PM, jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > AB,
> >
> >
> >
> > come on now, lay off my guy Capt. Jack! waiting on the new season with
> Martha
> > Jones.
> >
> >
> >
> > Fate.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************ **
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> > and everything in between. (http://www. aol.com/? ncid=emlcntaolco
> m00000024)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Augustus Augustus 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:17:24 +0000
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
>
> GTW,
>
> u r so right, but u know, i was hoping that since America did elect Barack,
> that they (the SciFi world) would at least say, "o.k., let's at least make
> an attempt 2 recognize that there are Black SciFi fans." look at the big
> blockbuster's of late. ID4 with Will Smith. Hancock, with Will Smith. The
> Matrix Trilogy with Laurence Fishburn. while i know that in the last
> example........................was a supporting character, still, there are
> Black people who like SciFi. DTESS sucked, except 4 little Mr. Smith.
> Even The Spirit has Sam Jackson (love the guy). i think that is one of the
> original reasons that i enjoyed the OS of Trek. Uhura. then u had a few
> ep's with Black actors who DID NOT DIE. plus, OS was really one of the
> first 2 actually say that Blacks were even alive in the future! but i
> guess that that is y u say, being a Black SciFi fan is not easy.
>
> Fate.
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/4/09, gwashin...@aol.com * wrote:
>
> From: gwashin...@aol.com 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 2:58 PM
>
> Fate, I feel the same. And it's the reason why I now have a love/hate
> relationship with the whole sci-fi/fantasy/ comic book gendre. Everytime I
> get into something that makes me feel good about sci-fi (namely the Coyote,
> Honor Harrition series) something comes along (like the Dr Who thing) to
> spoil it.
>
> But no one said being a black sci-fi fan was easy. :)
>
>
> -GTW
>
> In a message dated 1/4/09 1:50:02 PM, jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com writes:
>
>
> GTW,
>
> if that is indeed the case, then i will have 2 find other shows then 2
> watch. sorry, but being Black, i kind of look 4 shows that at least have
> someone who resembles me some kind of way.
>
> Fate.
>
> --- On* Sun, 1/4/09, gwashin...@aol. com** * wrote:
>
> From: gwashin...@aol. com 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Doctor has been announced.
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:28 AM
>
>
> Actually. From what I've heard they all but edited her out of the new
> season of Torchwood. And you won't see her again soon in any new episodes
> of Dr Who (past those now shown on BBC america) either. Sorry
>
>
> -GTW
>
> In a message dated 1/3/09 9:57:00 PM, jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>
>
> AB,
>
> come on now, lay off my guy Capt. Jack! waiting on the new season with
> Martha Jones.
>
> Fate.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ************ **
> Stay up-to-date on the latest news - from fashion trends to celebrity
> break-ups and everything in between. (http://www. aol.com/?
> ncid=emlcntaolco m00000024)
>
>
>
>



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