I did some research way back when on Zulu warfare way back when and I was 
impressed on how great their tactics were. If they could have mastered the gun 
the history of southern Africa might have played out a bit differently.

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....Or the fact that The Zulu nation gave Victoria's best a good run for their 
money in South Africa...I met King Goodwill Zulu in high school when he visited 
the states...never met a met who killed a lion until then...
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> JUst looked at an excerpt of William Wallace Vs. Shaka Zulu...from a quick 
> observation, Wallace would probably come out on top one on one, But Shaka's 
> tactics en masse would probably give Wallace's army a very bad time...too 
> many factors are against a decisive win for Shaka: Strictly footsoldiers 
> against archers, lancers and horsemen...both use that 'berzerker' style of 
> overrunning and overwhelming their enemies, but while Wallace had the better 
> technology, Zulu had more cunning tactics... 
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> From: Martin Baxter 
> Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] "The Deadliest Warrior" Marathon on SpikeTV 
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> I know, Keith, but, everytime I hear them say that, I think, "They really 
> haven't had much real-world experience in violence-related issues" because 
> I've seen things that'll make your hair UNcurl. The frying-pan/chairs 
> incident was back in my early days here in Atlanta, when I was out with some 
> friends at a bar in Buckhead. A fight broke out between one of my friends and 
> some guy, because of disparaging remarks directed at a young lady. I got hit 
> because I was trying to get that young lady out of harm's way. I've also seen 
> a man take two shots from a .38 in the chest, almost point-blank, and still 
> keep going, requiring four cops to subdue and arrest him. And he lived, still 
> lives. (Don't know what the circumstances of that were -- I was only nine 
> years old, and happened across the end of it when I s! tepped off the 
> schoolbus.) And those memoirs are all sitting in my head, waiting for the 
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> To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
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> yeah, I'm aware of that. But during the testing, they made a big deal out of 
> how both of those devices could crush a person's skull. The doctor is always 
> saying "That's a killing blow. You'll be dead before you hit the ground". I 
> get glancing blows not bringing the full force, of course, but in both cases 
> these were pretty much full on. Given what happened to the practice dummy, 
> one expects to see blood, brains, and bone fragments flying. 
> Either way, do tell more about your younger days. Sounds quite interesting! 
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> In one fight, I was hit directly in the forehead with a frying pan *and* took 
> two chairs upside the head, and kept going. Sometimes, in the heat of the 
> battle, adrenaline will allow you to take what might normally be a killing 
> blow and shrug it off. Though you *do* notice it later. *Boy*, do you... 
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> Still trying to figure out how the pirate survived a headblow by the 
> morningstar. But then, I can't see how the Apache survived at least two 
> direct blows to the face by the gladiator's spiked fist in their contest. 
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> From : Keith Johnson 
> To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
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> For those who love the series as much as me, SpikeTV is running an all day 
> marathon right now, going until 8 pm EST. They just finished Apache vs. 
> Gladiator (winner: Apache). Now it's Samurai vs. Viking warrior. What was 
> interesting about the matchups is the first several weren't so much major 
> differences in time periods (such as bronze vs. steel) as they were 
> differences in warrior size and method. It was small, fast, and efficient 
> versus large, powerful and overpowering. Usually, the smaller, faster 
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