Thanks, Rave. And for me, I believe my dad gave me Heinlein's short stories, and the moving tattoos got me, along with Starship Troopers. So I guess I was primed for Ms. Butler!
_____ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:30 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like Maurice, apparently, in your forties, you were still an "open-faced sandwich": open to new ideas and experiences. I would suggest that makes you an exception that proves the rule. Most people are fairly hardwired in their tastes and beliefs by then. IMNSHO. I ask, were you a SF reader of any kind prior to discovering Octavia Butler two decades ago? My entry drug was a fantasy novel called "Black and Blue Magic" by Zipha Keatley Synder ("Twelve-year-old Harry Houdini Marco is awkward and clumsy, bearing little resemblance to his magician namesake, until he acquires the gift of flight." - does it get any better than that?)read when I was ten years old. Wow! Pow! Zoom! That book took me to the moon. Next thing you know I am reading Arthur C. Clarke, Samuel L. Delany and, yes, Octavia Butler. As an adult few things, and mostly movies seen on the big screen(the first "Matrix," "Slumdog Millionaire"), come near to affecting me that way. ~rave! --- In scifino...@yahoogro <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com, mcjennings...@... wrote: > > I'm 62! I 'discovered'. Octavia Butler I my late 40s. There ARE no limits except the ones we put on ourselves. Go on. Discover and enjoy! > > And for me, it's still about books. The pictures that the words create in my imagination are perfect for me. They don't need translation ore interpretation. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: "ravenadal" <ravena...@...> > > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:47:35 > To: <scifino...@yahoogro <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com> > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like > > > Is it possible to become a sci-fi reader in one's thirties? I have always considered SF a young person's game - if you don't get the bug early you seldom get it. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have suggested a great book to someone post thirty to only be met with a "I don't read science fiction." > > ~(no)rave! > > (by-the-by: regarding Asimov, his style has always left me cold. I am a Sir Arthur C. Clarke guy, myself). > > --- In scifino...@yahoogro <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com, "marian_changling" <md_moore42@> wrote: > > > > I am going to guess that she is in her thirties. > > > > I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book. Mainly because SF of that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization. I remember loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now. Now I might sit back and gripe that there were no real female characters. > > > > I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like. > > > > > > > > --- In scifino...@yahoogro <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com, "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker013@> wrote: > > > > > > Marian, the "Hyperion" series is about the closest I can think of in comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization. Having read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend "Hyperion". I would, however, suggest "Foundation" first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's age? A few SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've advised books written during my generation to people of a later one, and many of the cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------[ Received Mail Content ]---------- > > > > > Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like > > > > > Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -0000 > > > > > From : "marian_changling" <md_moore42@> > > > > > To : scifino...@yahoogro <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > > > > > > > > I have a friend who started Asimov's "Foundation" series because of the theme. Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 1940's style of writing. > > > > > > Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic novels and "Hyperion". I never read that one; anyone know anything about it? Anyone have another suggestion? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds> com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds > > > > > >