Keith, I once popped back into a physics forum I used to frequent, just to see how insane they all may still have been. (Worse, for the record.) They had a thread posted about Ghost Hunters, questioning the veracity of the techniques used in the show. Lots of four-letter words in the mix, none favorable for the show.
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:07:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is SyFy Trying to Chase Away Viewers? I agree. I blew by one night, and they were discussing something like a scratching sound outside a farmhouse. Or perhaps it was a shadow with no source? Balderdash! There are so many ways light and shadow, and especially sound, can be bent and twisted and redirected it's not even funny. Often, I make the comment, "Well, if I'd had a chance to put money up for this, I'd have missed a fortune". Meaning, if I'd had a chance to invest in something, I'd be sh** out of luck, because I'd have sworn it was gonna fail. I felt that way about "American Idol", "Big Brother", and "Top Model", to name a few. I could have sworn these ghost/urban legend hunting shows would have died on the vine too. But then, this is the network that used to air psychic John Edward speaking to the dearly departed... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@hotmail.com> To: "SciFiNoir2" <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 7:51:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is SyFy Trying to Chase Away Viewers? Personally, I question whether any of it is even real. The silly-to-me affectation of viewing the hunt through infrared lenses is off-putting and, many times as I watch the preview clips (I have yet to sit through a full ep -- 3/4 at best), I feel as though many of the "perceived effects" of the haunting are nothing more than subliminal in anture, the investigators talking themselves into seeing things. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 03:54:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is SyFy Trying to Chase Away Viewers? good points. Has anyone watched an entire ep of "Ghost Hunters"? Once those dweebs pronounce a house safe, does anyone ever go back and interview the occupants a few weeks later, to see if the manifestations are back? Have those idiots ever pronounced a house or building haunted, and if so, does anyone ever go back to confirm that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@hotmail.com> To: "SciFiNoir2" <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:12:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is SyFy Trying to Chase Away Viewers? Into this, I say something I said several months back. Siffy needs *competition* in delivering genre to the fans. Back in the day, there was only HBO delivering premium viewing to the masses. Therefore, they were able to get away with cycling the same batch of crap to viewers month after month. What are watchers gonna do? Go soemwhere else? There was nowhere else. After Cinemax, The Movie Channel and Showtime moved onto the scene, it forced HBO to amp up their game. And, as for that "coming thing" (tip of hat to "Brisco County Jr."), I'm holding the door open with the lead balloon that is Ghost Hunters. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: dar...@darylelockhart.com Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:34:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is SyFy Trying to Chase Away Viewers? BBC America is the home of true sci-fi on TV. There. I said it. 2009 was the test, and BBC passed. Evidence? While you were flipping out over "Destination Truth" and "Ghost HUnters", BBC was playingthe first episode of Torchwood. Which is all I really needed. SyFy didn't just jump the shark, they did a reality series on shark jumping. I haven't seen the books, but I've resigned myself to the fact that this network is some money laundering joint for NBC. The ratings for "Green Mutatnt Jello Bikini Beach Attack with Alien Wolves" are really good, and so advertisers keep coming back. This network will not be changing anytime soon. You may wanna just get used to YouTube and hulu like the rest of us. There's a marketing suit at SyFY that's on twitter, and I really feel bad for the guy. When you look at his followers it's all people who are genuinely interested in science fiction. And he's getting GREAT FEEDBACK. Really thoughtful stuff. But nothing's happening. Now, on another film blog I was recently awarded the "most foolishly optimistic" award, and so to ainitain my title supremacy, I submit this: the last time TV was this bad...we got MST3K. So something's coming. Not sure what, but something's coming. Maybe another Elvira. Something. There are too many bad TV shows now for someone not to make a real living off of this. On Sep 7, 2009, at 10:18 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: So we had a long holiday weekend, and, going into it, I prepared myself for another weekend of marathons. You know: Twilight Zone all day Saturday, "Enterprise" or TNG on Monday. Maybe some "Eureka" or BSG thrown in for good measure. But know what we got instead? All day Sunday, the "reality" show "Destination Truth", and all day Labor Day, "Ghost Hunters". WTF??? Look, SyFy has a huge backlog of scifi series, successful and canceled, that they can show. There's "The Dresden Files", "Special Unit 7". there's even that creepy show with Matthew Fox that took place in a weird hospital. What about old eps of "First Wave"? I'd take that over searches for urban legends and local myths. Hell, they can pull out Space: Above and Beyond if they want. I'd watch it over those idiot Ghostbuster wannabes. Fortunately I wasn't home very much, so didn't have to depend on the telly for entertainment. But when I was home? I watched marathons of "Ben 10: Alien Force", "Wolverine and the X-Men", and science fact shows "The Universe" and "Planet Earth" instead. Sad that I'm more excited to watch cartoons more than a supposed science fiction channel all weekend. Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. 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