Exactly, Tracey. He's too slight of an actor, with none of the underlying strength of Clark Kent (I tend to think of him as Clark who masquerades as Superman, though the movies take the opposite approach). It's as if he's always trying to be gentle or sensitive or moody. With Kate Bosworth I'm positive it's casting, with Routh, I wondered if a stronger script could have allowed him to do a better job. He wasn't the best choice, but think a better script could have made him a serviceable one? What's funny to me? I really think that Tom Welling and Erica Durance from "Smallville" would have been the perfect choices for a movie. Welling plays the nice guy Clark who seems a bit tentative, but also shows the strength of character that is the true power of Superman,and Durance is a perfect Lois, tough and sassy, unpredictable, funny, irritating, even tender. I really wish the studio had reverse their feeling that putting those two on screen (it was considered) would have been too confusing. Now that the series is all but making Clark into Superman--he has every power but flight, and is even wearing a type of uniform with the "S" symbol--I think the transition to the big screen would have worked.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:33:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies There is another problem with Superman. I never could put my finger on it, but Brandon Roth, despite being made to order for the part, lacks something. While watching the movie, I never feel like I am watching Superman. Again, another problem with casting From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies Agreed on "Superman Returns", it looks fantastic. Three scenes stay with me that feel incredibly cool and mythic. One is when Metropolis is shaken by quakes, and Superman is flying through the city. There's a scene where debris falls from the buildings and Supes, having flown past the site, rolls over in mid-flight, still flying *away* from the debris, but sends his heat vision back to incinerate it. I love it when movies showcase flying--whether it's spaceships or superheroes--outside the norm. Earlier is the scene when Clark is floating above Earth, listening to thousands of conversations like some kind of beneficent demigod, then speeding back down when he hears an emergency. And then there's the whole scene with the island Luthor creates. When Luthor stabs Superman with the Green K shard, that was awesome (I much prefer the sinister Luthor to the joking one and which Spacey could have just stayed in the sinister mode, like the animated series Luthor voiced by Clancy Brown). Later, when Supes flies up to the clouds to recharge, then lifts the island to space, while the Green K is killing him, then falls to Earth--that was damn mythic! Singer had so many moments right, and imbued some scenes with powerful emotion. He was just too sentimental in the love story between Lois and Clark, and as you say, the choice for Lois really hurt the movie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@yahoo.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:19:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I stop and re-watch the first X-Man movie every time I run across it on cable (AT&T Uverse, baby!) and I think the first part of that movie - up until the point where Storm and Cyclops rescue Wolverine and Rogue from Sabertooth and Magneto's minions is some of the finest film making that I have ever seen in super hero movie. That is all Bryan Singer. And, while I will admit the latest superman movie was less filling (especially that child trying to fill Margot Kidder's shoes) but it looked great. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really > all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those > flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as > much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after > three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the > choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key > powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix > storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the > ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just > movie versions. > It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak > effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) > makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. > > ******************************************************************************* > > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y > > > > Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' > Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox > > > Associated Press > > Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET > > > hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg > > Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- > Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and > has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. > > The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the > third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director > Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South > African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: > Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. > > "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been > talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan > International Film Festival. > > "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian > actor who plays Wolverine. > > Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they > allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the > "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who > struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. > > He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, > but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say." > > "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is â€" the > stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. > > Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the > American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean > filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where > directors must negotiate with studio executives. > > Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it > in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility > to help studios feel secure in their investments." > > Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual > Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his > adaptations of popular comic book series. >
