so you think he thought the franchise was dead? Wild, doesn't fit with Shatner 
as I thought I knew him, 'cause that was a rather underwhelming death. 



He should have gone out like his "dad" did in teh alternate reality opening to 
the newest movie. 
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I think perhaps he did not believe in the ability of the revamped franchise 
with new people to succeed on film as well as TV.  Back when he did Star Trek, 
you could not really do TV and movies at the same time.  





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Agreed, I said the same on a couple of other e-mails: that Shatner should never 
have agreed to Kirk's death, and that the Nexus is a ridiculously easy way to 
bring him back. 


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I understand when we think Star Trek we think Enterprise. I think that too but 
Shatner should have thought about that before he allowed his character to die 
on Veridian 3. Perhaps if they are going to bring him back it should be from 
the Nexus and have him at least attempt to fix the messed up time line. 


--Lavender 







From: Keith Johnson 


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I'll be succinct. 



One. It was a mistake not to include Shatner in a Trek movie. Unlike many who 
either don't like him, or see him as not essential to Treklore, I like Shatner 
fine. Star Trek was more about Shatner, I'd argue, in terms of the human quest 
for knowledge and enlightenment, than Spock, despite Spock's popularity. 
Really, they need each other, so to have one without the other? Bad move. 



Two. I wonder how they'll bring in Shatner in this new timeline? Makes me 
frustrated again at the whole alternate reality angle, which I fear I shall 
never fully embrace. 


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http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/2986590/William-Shatner-set-to-be-beamed-up
 

William Shatner set to be beamed up 

Last updated 13:32 21/10/2009 

Hollywood director JJ Abrams appears set to beam William Shatner up to the 
Star Trek sequel. 

Abrams suffered plenty of criticism from Star Trek fans when he opted not 
to cast Shatner, the original Captain James T Kirk of the USS Enterprise, 
in this year's big screen update of the iconic sci-fi film and TV series. 

Abrams did cast the original Spock, Leonard Nimoy. 

Star Trek was one of the most successful films of 2009, earning almost 
US$400 million (NZ$542.81m) at the worldwide box office, and with a sequel 
set for release in theatres in 2011, Abrams confirmed Shatner may be 
offered a role. 

"I would love to work with him," Abrams told reporters in Los Angeles at a 
press conference to promote the release of the Star Trek DVD. 

"We speak. We actually have a lunch date planned." 

Abrams opted to make Star Trek a prequel, winding the clock back to the 
early years of the Star Trek crew with young actors Chris Pine (Kirk), 
Zachary Quinto (Spock) and Simon Pegg (Montgomery Scott) filling the lead 
roles. 

While Abrams and screenwriters Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman managed to find 
a way to bring Nimoy back, they opted against offering Shatner a role. 

The dilemma they faced is examined in The Shatner Conundrum, one of the 
extra features on the Star Trek DVD. 

"It was a foregone conclusion we wanted him in the movie," Abrams 
explained. 

"The problem was his character died on screen in one of his Trek films and 
because we decided, very early on, that we wanted to adhere to Trek canon 
as best we could ... the required machinations to get Shatner into the 
movie would have been very difficult to do given the story we wanted to 
tell and also to give him the kind of part that he would be happy with. 

"It was this thing where it would have felt like a gimmick in order to get 
Shatner in the movie, which would have honestly, to me, been distracting." 

The success of Abrams' Star Trek and the welcome Pine, Quinto, Pegg and 
other new actors received from Trekkies will make it easier to introduce 
Shatner into the sequel, Abrams said. 

"In terms of moving forward, I am open to anything," Abrams added. 

"I feel like the first movie did some of the heavy lifting that needed to 
be done in order to free us to continue going forward. Maybe there's less 
of a burden and there's going to be more opportunity to work with him 
(Shatner)." 

The Star Trek DVD, set for release in Australia on October 29, is filled 
with extras, including gag reels, three hours of bonus footage, 
commentary, secrets behind th e costumes and sets and deleted scenes that 
reveal a side story involving Eric Bana's villainous character Nero. 

The DVD also includes what is billed as "ground-breaking augmented reality 
technology" which, through a webcam, allows a 3D holographic tour of the 
Enterprise. 

Abrams said the decision to hold the world premiere for Star Trek at the 
Sydney Opera House in April was the perfect launch pad for the movie. 

"I have been to Sydney before and I loved it the first time," Abrams told 
AAP in a video interview. 

"This last time it was so surreal. First of all I had never been to the 
Opera House which could not have been more beautiful. 

"The reception was off the charts. The people were so kind. It was 
beautiful, maybe not atypical Sydney weather, but I called my wife and 
said 'We might have to move here'. 

"I am serious. I want to go back not just for professional reasons. I just 
want to go back because it is f antastic." 










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