Fallon is actually growing into his show a bit. Plus having the Toots is a huge boost. I don't think anyone would blink if his show went away.
A show I actually enjoy is Carson Daly. He has interesting guests and the informal settings seem to get a lot of them to open up. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > > > I doubt it, he looks too tentative and diffident even for them. It's as if > someone took an unfunny shy guy and gave him a show. He acts nervous all the > time. I just don't get it. I haven't been a fan of late night for years. > Tried to watch Monique's show, but she's too loud and it's too chaotic. A > pity, 'cause she was showcasing people other shows completely ignore, like > the cast of "Lincoln Heights". Late night has been way too lacking in color > for way too long... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2010 3:41:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does NBC's Huge Pilot Order Spell Trouble For Jay? > >  > > > > > Jimmy Fallon has a show because someone at NBC likes him. No one finds him > funny though. You'd be hard pressed to find someone that likes him. Maybe > teen girls? > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Actually, Leno is that old-fashioned kind of guy who simply loves what he > does. I've seen some interviews with him where he says he just loves working. > He doesn't even take vacations really: he can't get sitting on a beach > staring at the ocean when he could be talking to a crowd. Leno didn't want to > leave "The Tonight Show". NBC in its infinite wisdom pushed him out--they > literally asked him to leave--and then moved Conan up. Of course, anyone with > sense could have predicted that Conan's brand of humour would lose the older > and more conservative folks that found Jay to be safe. (O'Brien did pull in > more young viewers, but not enough). But once they had O'Brien in the new > slot, NBC *approached* Leno and asked him to come back for this new (cheaper) > show. He did it because he just wanted to work. Money is good, of course, but > he doesn't need the dough. Leno's like Samuel Jackson or Michael Caine--he > likes to keep busy. > > > > So, O'Brien had to tone down his show and lose what made him unique, didn't > do that well in the slot Leno vacated, Leno isn't doing that well in his > slot, which was no surprise, 'cause who wants to see a non-variety show at > that time, and David Letterman is finally beating NBC. Idiotic programming. > > > > On the flipside, the best new talk show in the nightime in my opinion is > probably George Lopez. It's not great, but it has more of the old Arsenio > flavor. Not surprising since they're buds, and Lopez straightout said he > patterned his show after Arsenio's. Wanda Sykes' is too hit-and-miss for me, > I can't get with the transvestive co-host which is odd. And someone explain > why Jimmy Fallon has a show, The Roots notwithstanding? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Baxter" < truthseeker...@... > > To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2010 3:12:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Does NBC's Huge Pilot Order Spell Trouble For Jay? > >  > > > > > > > > That's what the word was when he left the Tonight Show, initially. Money > talks, I guess. And I won't say that he's done for entirely. From what I've > seen of this stellar lineup NBC's concocted, I don't give ninety percent of > the lot six months. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@... > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:20:52 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does NBC's Huge Pilot Order Spell Trouble For Jay? > >  > > > Wasn't there talk that Jay was going to be retiring soon? He has to go take > care of his massive car collection / museum. > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Tracey de Morsella < tdli...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > UPDATE: Verne Gay over at Newsday , who has followed the minutiae of the TV > business far longer than I have, furthers this theory: that NBC will bump > Leno on Thursdays and Fridays , and that a show like NBCâs planned remake > of â Rockford Files â would only be suitable in a 10 p.m. weekday slot.) > At least one of my 2010 media predictions came true before I even wrote it > â" in one of those headlines that got lost in the holiday shuffle, NBC is > indeed producing a lot more pilots for the 2010-11 TV season, 18 in fact . If > youâre keeping score, thatâs more pilots than the network has produced > since 2003. But according to president of primetime entertainment Angela > Bromstad , the huge ramping up of pilot production â" last year the network > produced only 11 â" has nothing to do with the tepid ratings of the 10 p.m. > weeknight â Jay Leno Show â which Iâve predicted wonât last until > next year at this time. No, no. Instead Bromstad told Bloomberg that having > Leno eat up five hours during the week will allow her to spend more time > thinking about the 10 [weekday] hours from 8 to 10. âWe have so many holes > that we have to essentially rebuild the schedule. Not having the additional > five hours has certainly relieved some of the pressure,â she said. > Please, readers, take that with a grain of salt. > It seems like ordering so many pilots (NBC plans to produce 10 one-hour > dramas and eight 30-minute sitcoms), just might leave it with some additional > wiggle room if it decides to deep-six the âLenoâ show, which seems a > likelihood not only because of the showâs ratings but because of the > unfortunate ripple effect the show has had on local news and the networkâs > late-night schedule. While the chances of any pilot making it on air are very > low, and thereâs of course an even lower chance that a show will actually > catch on, consider the following: NBC is ordering up enough pilots to fill > the 8 to 10 slot almost one and a half times if the entire current schedule > were to be obliterated. While that may be tempting to some who are sick of > NBCâs seven-year ratings decline â" not even counting this season â" > shows like â The Office â, â Biggest Loser â and â Law and Order > â arenât going anywhere. (Actually, Bromstad has already confirmed âLaw > and Orderâ isnât going anywhere next season.) > Iâm not saying that Bromstad is exactly stretching the truth in what she > said above, but ordering up so many pilots is a great way to hedge oneâs > bets, and if ever a broadcast network needed to do some hedging, itâs NBC. > > > http://industry.bnet.com/media/10005727/nbc-is-flying-a-lot-of-pilots-is-it-really-to-fill-up-jay-leno-airspace/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bnet%2Fmedia+%28BNET+Industries+-+Media+Insights%29&utm_content=Google+Reader > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >