Fallon is actually growing into his show a bit. Plus having the Toots is a huge 
boost. I don't think anyone would blink if his show went away.

A show I actually enjoy is Carson Daly. He has interesting guests and the 
informal settings seem to get a lot of them to open up.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote:
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> I doubt it, he looks too tentative and diffident even for them. It's as if 
> someone took an unfunny shy guy and gave him a show. He acts nervous all the 
> time. I just don't get it. I haven't been a fan of late night for years. 
> Tried to watch Monique's show, but she's too loud and it's too chaotic. A 
> pity, 'cause she was showcasing people other shows completely ignore, like 
> the cast of "Lincoln Heights".  Late night has been way too lacking in color 
> for way too long... 
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2010 3:41:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does NBC's Huge Pilot Order Spell Trouble For Jay? 
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> Jimmy Fallon has a show because someone at NBC likes him. No one finds him 
> funny though. You'd be hard pressed to find someone that likes him. Maybe 
> teen girls? 
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> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 
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> Actually, Leno is that old-fashioned kind of guy who simply loves what he 
> does. I've seen some interviews with him where he says he just loves working. 
> He doesn't even take vacations really: he can't get sitting on a beach 
> staring at the ocean when he could be talking to a crowd. Leno didn't want to 
> leave "The Tonight Show". NBC in its infinite wisdom pushed him out--they 
> literally asked him to leave--and then moved Conan up. Of course, anyone with 
> sense could have predicted that Conan's brand of humour would lose the older 
> and more conservative folks that found Jay to be safe. (O'Brien did pull in 
> more young viewers, but not enough). But once they had O'Brien in the new 
> slot, NBC *approached* Leno and asked him to come back for this new (cheaper) 
> show. He did it because he just wanted to work. Money is good, of course, but 
> he doesn't need the dough. Leno's like Samuel Jackson or Michael Caine--he 
> likes to keep busy. 
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> So, O'Brien had to tone down his show and lose what made him unique, didn't 
> do that well in the slot Leno vacated, Leno isn't doing that well in his 
> slot, which was no surprise, 'cause who wants to see a non-variety show at 
> that time, and David Letterman is finally beating NBC. Idiotic programming. 
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> On the flipside, the best new talk show in the nightime in my opinion is 
> probably George Lopez. It's not great, but it has more of the old Arsenio 
> flavor. Not surprising since they're buds, and Lopez straightout said he 
> patterned his show after Arsenio's. Wanda Sykes' is too hit-and-miss for me, 
> I can't get with the transvestive co-host which is odd.  And someone explain 
> why Jimmy Fallon has a show, The Roots notwithstanding? 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Martin Baxter" < truthseeker...@... > 
> To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > 
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> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2010 3:12:09 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Does NBC's Huge Pilot Order Spell Trouble For Jay? 
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> That's what the word was when he left the Tonight Show, initially. Money 
> talks, I guess. And I won't say that he's done for entirely. From what I've 
> seen of this stellar lineup NBC's concocted, I don't give ninety percent of 
> the lot six months. 
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> From: hellomahog...@... 
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:20:52 -0800 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does NBC's Huge Pilot Order Spell Trouble For Jay? 
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> Wasn't there talk that Jay was going to be retiring soon? He has to go take 
> care of his massive car collection / museum. 
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> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Tracey de Morsella < tdli...@... > wrote: 
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> UPDATE: Verne Gay over at Newsday , who has followed the minutiae of the TV 
> business far longer than I have, furthers this theory: that NBC will bump 
> Leno on Thursdays and Fridays , and that a show like NBC’s planned remake 
> of “ Rockford Files ” would only be suitable in a 10 p.m. weekday slot.) 
> At least one of my 2010 media predictions came true before I even wrote it 
> â€" in one of those headlines that got lost in the holiday shuffle, NBC is 
> indeed producing a lot more pilots for the 2010-11 TV season, 18 in fact . If 
> you’re keeping score, that’s more pilots than the network has produced 
> since 2003. But according to president of primetime entertainment Angela 
> Bromstad , the huge ramping up of pilot production â€" last year the network 
> produced only 11 â€" has nothing to do with the tepid ratings of the 10 p.m. 
> weeknight “ Jay Leno Show ” which I’ve predicted won’t last until 
> next year at this time. No, no. Instead Bromstad told Bloomberg that having 
> Leno eat up five hours during the week will allow her to spend more time 
> thinking about the 10 [weekday] hours from 8 to 10. “We have so many holes 
> that we have to essentially rebuild the schedule. Not having the additional 
> five hours has certainly relieved some of the pressure,” she said. 
> Please, readers, take that with a grain of salt. 
> It seems like ordering so many pilots (NBC plans to produce 10 one-hour 
> dramas and eight 30-minute sitcoms), just might leave it with some additional 
> wiggle room if it decides to deep-six the “Leno” show, which seems a 
> likelihood not only because of the show’s ratings but because of the 
> unfortunate ripple effect the show has had on local news and the network’s 
> late-night schedule. While the chances of any pilot making it on air are very 
> low, and there’s of course an even lower chance that a show will actually 
> catch on, consider the following: NBC is ordering up enough pilots to fill 
> the 8 to 10 slot almost one and a half times if the entire current schedule 
> were to be obliterated. While that may be tempting to some who are sick of 
> NBC’s seven-year ratings decline â€" not even counting this season â€" 
> shows like “ The Office “, “ Biggest Loser ” and “ Law and Order 
> ” aren’t going anywhere. (Actually, Bromstad has already confirmed “Law 
> and Order” isn’t going anywhere next season.) 
> I’m not saying that Bromstad is exactly stretching the truth in what she 
> said above, but ordering up so many pilots is a great way to hedge one’s 
> bets, and if ever a broadcast network needed to do some hedging, it’s NBC. 
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> http://industry.bnet.com/media/10005727/nbc-is-flying-a-lot-of-pilots-is-it-really-to-fill-up-jay-leno-airspace/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bnet%2Fmedia+%28BNET+Industries+-+Media+Insights%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
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