There are lots of wind farms in Northern Iowa and I've never read about any noise complaints. I've driven by them and have even stopped near them and the noise wasn't bad at all.
The bird issues seems to be the biggest concern. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> wrote: > > There was some talk about doing a large program here but it will probably > end up further out from here. However there is a solar training program here > where they teach low income folks to become solar panel installers. In San > Francisco they have been increasing the number of rooftop solar panels via a > government program. (the money is running out) > > I think that they could do a larger windmill farm here near the beach. In > some areas the wind rarely stops blowing. There's about 2 miles of land that > is undeveloped that was used during WW2 that would be a perfect wind farm. > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Tracey de Morsella < > tdli...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > You have just confirmed my brief experiences being up close and personal > > with wind farms. I think they are kind of whimsical. > > > > > > > > They are doing a lot of solar farms out near you. I mostly know as a > > result of tracking new projects and funding. Have you seen anything yet. > > > > > > > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > > *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 11:35 PM > > > > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills? > > > > > > > > > > > > In the bay area (you probably know about them) there is a large wind farm > > with 50 or 100ft tall windmills with huge blades. You can drive up to them > > and get close to them. Even when you are near 20 or so of them you barely > > hear them. Its just a pleasant woosh / mechanical sound. You hear more noise > > from the freeway. A few miles from me is a windmill that is connected to > > someone's house with a 6ft blade span. It spins at a higher rate so the > > pitch is higher. The higher pitch would make it harder to hear across the > > street from it. > > > > If you are out in the middle of nowhere and there is little to no ambient > > sound at night then I guess they would be considered loud. But if you are > > nearly a mile away from them you probably wouldn't hear them at all. > > > > I like the solar farms that they are doing in Spain. (focused light to a > > tower with a steam generator) > > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Tracey de Morsella < > > tdli...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Property values is another issue. My husband reminded me that studies in > > Europe have shown that the presence of a wind farm does not lower property > > values. I personally would be much more inclined to buy property near a > > wind farm than a power line > > > > > > > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > > *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:57 PM > > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills? > > > > > > > > > > > > I will check out the articles. One thing that I thought was odd was that > > the owner of the windmill company said that there was a client that was > > having problems from his neighbors although he had 3500 acres of land around > > him. That made me automatically think that the people that were protesting > > were lying. Audible sound waves wouldn't travel that far, and they wouldn't > > be able to hear the low frequency waves. > > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Tracey de Morsella < > > tdli...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Worf: > > > > > > > > You know that renewable energy is my business. So, I could not resist > > responding. We have a lot of articles on our portal on wind. You can view > > them here. > > http://greeneconomypost.com/category/green-business/wind-energy-green-business > > > > Unfortunately, we do not have a lot on the opposition to it. > > > > > > > > However most opposition to wind and other forms of renewable energy have > > been artificially created. The main culprit is the oils companies with > > ExxonMobil leading the charge. I do not have the most recent numbers but > > ExxonMobil > > has a history of funding groups that have misrepresented the science of > > climate change by outright denial of the evidence. According to a study > > conducted by the Union of Concerned Scientists in 2007, ExxonMobil had spent > > over $16 million to fund climate change skeptic groups as part of a > > âtobacco-like disinformation campaign on global warming science.â > > <http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html>They > > have continued to channel money to these groups. These climate change > > skeptic groups work to scare people away from believing climate change and > > to make them think that programs that address it will ruin they economy, > > steal jobs, etc. > > > > > > > > I wrote an analysis debunking their latest investment in this cause. > > > > Debunking The Spanish Study on The Dire Result of Green Jobs Creation > > > > http://greeneconomypost.com/debunk-spanish-study-green-jobs-1582.htm > > > > > > > > There are some legitimate concerns that people should have about > > windmills. The following are the two that I am aware of: > > > > > > > > Killing birds. If you build a wind farm in the migration path of specific > > bird species, they will die when the fly into them. Having learned from the > > past. Most wind energy companies study the bird flight patterns and do not > > build their wind farms at these sites. > > > > > > > > Some people put wind mills on their roofs unaware of the noise factor. > > That is a problem that is likely to go away because there are now windmills > > for homes that do not make noise. > > > > > > > > The effort by the right ring smear machine is strong, rich, powerful, and > > effective. They even have a web site that markets their fear. > > > > http://www.wind-watch.org/ > > > > > > > > Thanks for asking. J > > > > > > > > Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer > > > > The Green Economy Post > > > > http://greeneconomypost.com > > > > tra...@... > > > > Phone: 425-502-7716 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > > *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:24 PM > > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills? > > > > > > > > > > > > I was watching a show on small business about a company in New Jersey that > > was under attack by a citizens group. One of the claims that is being made > > is that the sound that the windmills make causes damage. > > http://www.waynewindturbines.com/ > > > > With different sizes, makes, and manufacturers that cannot be what is going > > on. Funny that no one talks about the high tension electrical lines in the > > photo. > > > > What is your first thought on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >
