They look a little odder than standard anime eyes to me--almost hollow or empty somehow.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@hotmail.com> To: "SciFiNoir2" <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:13:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Pardon... all thumbs, sent that last too soon. Meant to add that the eyes don't throw me, personally. Used to it from anime viewing. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:51:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Yeah, i couldn't get into the "Spectacular Spider-Man" toon either. Those big eyes are kinda creepy, and Peter and others seem to be a bit too small. without Raimi's control, who knows what this movie will be? :( ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@hotmail.com> To: "SciFiNoir2" <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:10:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses Keith, I don't even think I'll waste my time on it. I've been rewatching the last version of "Spectacular Spider-Man" on Disney XD, and it's clearly aimed at the younger crowd, not something I really want to see. Watching one ep in which SPidey was fighting basically all of his Rogues' Gallery reminded me of a single issue of ASM (can't remember which) in which Spidey was fighting someone (again, pardon me crappy memory), being beaten almost to a pulp, but never giving in. Made me a fan of his all over again. IMO, that one ish, made into a movie, would make me happy for years, if done faithfully to the text. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:32:25 +0000 Subject: [scifinoir2] Sam Raimi Finally Returns to His Senses I think the franchise was done after Spider-Man 2, for the same reasons: the studio wanted "more, more, more!", and with Spider-Man 3, crafted a bloated, FX-filled (and bad FX at that, worse than usual) monstrosity of a movie with way too many villains, a clunky script, and none of the hear and soul of the first two. Personally I've never been super crazy about the Spidey flicks as visual spectacles because the CGI has always bothered me: most of the web swinging, wall-crawling, and fights are painfully obvious CGI. It was the story, the acting, and Raimi's dedication to letting things build, instead of just throwing fights at us, that kept me involed. With 3, all the things I loved were out the door. It was almost as bad as "Wolverine: X-Men Origins", definitely as bad as X3. Raimi's return recently to his love with "Drag Me to Hell" showed he wanted to do stuff his way again. I read interviews with him where he expressed frustration with the studio just wanting to churn out product to make deadlines and pull in dollars, so am not at all surprised he's done. The only way he was going to do another flick was if the studio gave him the time and freedom to do a film the way he wanted, and that's obviously not happening. I think the next film will be just adequate, and am in no rush to see it. ********************************************** Spidey Rebooted UPDATED: Raimi out! Maguire out! Vulture out! But who's in? by Scott Collura January 11, 2010 - Damn, Sam Raimi , you've made us proud. As much as we're sorry to see you go, we respect the fact that you've stuck to your guns and told Sony to stick their webs where the sun don't shine. That's right, folks. Sam Raimi has left the Spider-Man franchise, which essentially means that Spider-Man 4 is no more and the wallcrawler is now getting a from-scratch reboot from the studio instead. Tobey Maguire is also done with the red and blue suit, and in fact Sony is saying ( via Twitter ) that the reboot will go back to high school with the character and be released in 2012. Deadline Hollywood 's Nikki Finke had the story first, saying that "Mike Fleming and I have just confirmed that Sony Pictures decided today to reboot the Spider-Man franchise after franchise director Sam Raimi pulled out of Spider-Man 4 because he felt he couldn't make its summer release date and keep the film's creative integrity. This means that Raimi and the cast including star Tobey Maguire are out. There will be no Spider-Man 4 . Instead, Mike Fleming is told, the studio will focus on a reboot script by Jamie Vanderbilt with a new director and a new cast. All this took place ... at [a] meeting on the lot today." DH goes on to say that Raimi insisted he couldn't make Sony's date or "go forward creatively. And, so, once he said 'That's it,' Sony Pictures co-chairman [Amy] Pascal and Columbia Pictures' Matt Tolmach decided they didn't want to replace him and instead chose to reboot the franchise." Points to Sony for making the smart choice here. We've got a call in to Sony right now and we'll update here as soon as we hear back from them! But, dang, this is a big one. UPDATED: Here is Sony's official statement on the reboot: "Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager dealing with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises. The new chapter in the Spider-Man franchise produced by Columbia, Marvel Studios and Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin , will have a new cast and filmmaking team. Spider-Man 4 was to have been released in 2011, but had not yet gone into production. "A decade ago we set out on this journey with Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire and together we made three Spider-Man films that set a new bar for the genre. When we began, no one ever imagined that we would make history at the box-office and now we have a rare opportunity to make history once again with this franchise. Peter Parker as an ordinary young adult grappling with extraordinary powers has always been the foundation that has made this character so timeless and compelling for generations of fans. We're very excited about the creative possibilities that come from returning to Peter's roots and we look forward to working once again with Marvel Studios, Avi Arad and Laura Ziskin on this new beginning," said Amy Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment. "Working on the Spider-Man movies was the experience of a lifetime for me. While we were looking forward to doing a fourth one together, the studio and Marvel have a unique opportunity to take the franchise in a new direction, and I know they will do a terrific job," said Sam Raimi. "We have had a once-in-a-lifetime collaboration and friendship with Sam and Tobey and they have given us their best for the better part of the last decade.This is a bittersweet moment for us because while it is hard to imagine Spider-Man in anyone else's hands, I know that this was a day that was inevitable," said Matt Tolmach, president of Columbia Pictures, who has served as the studio's chief production executive since the beginning of the franchise. "Now everything begins anew, and that's got us all tremendously excited about what comes next. Under the continuing supervision of Avi and Laura, we have a clear vision for the future of Spider-Man and can't wait to share this exciting new direction with audiences in 2012." " Spider-Man will always be an important franchise for Sony Pictures and a fresh start like this is a responsibility that we all take very seriously," said Michael Lynton, Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures. "We have always believed that story comes first and story guides the direction of these films. As we move onto the next chapter, we will stay true to that principle and will do so with the highest respect for the source material and the fans and moviegoers who deserve nothing but the best when it comes to bringing these stories and characters to life on the big screen." The studio will have more news about Spider-Man in 2012 in the coming weeks as it prepares for production of the film. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
