I guess that you didn't read the post about them auctioning off the Stargate sets? That is a clear sign that they are moving in that direction. Green screen can open up a lot of flexibility for them though. It just takes money and rendering time to do it.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:41 PM, C.W. Badie <astromancer2...@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > Okay, I missed the Michael J. move...But I beg to differ on the use of the > green screen...I've noticed SyFy's Sacuary and other like shows have been > using g.s. backgrounds since Gemini Division aired...The trend of cheap > production to come? > > "Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet" > From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie > > --- On *Tue, 1/26/10, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good? > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 8:53 PM > > > You forgot swing thrust kick slice and the ever popular jump like Michael > Jordan kill move. The arena scene would have been awesome if they had kept > them at speed because the effects were very realistic. (like the leg > chopping) Stopping the action to do the blood gushing was just silly. > > The other thing that I thought was interesting about the production was the > use of green screen. This may be one of the few shows that use it for most > of the shots. The rest looked like shots from the Paramount lot. > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:22 PM, C.W. Badie <astromancer2002@ > yahoo.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astromancer2...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > >> >> >> All I got out of it was 'swing, thrust, (gush!), slice, block (gush!), >> with slow motion on the (gush!) part...That is barely one aspect of "300." >> There was a bit of a hint that people of that age had more blood in there >> bodies... >> >> >> "Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet" >> From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie >> >> --- On *Tue, 1/26/10, Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ >> hotmail.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@hotmail.com> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ >> hotmail.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@hotmail.com>> >> >> >> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good? >> To: "SciFiNoir2" <scifino...@yahoogro >> ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com> >> > >> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:33 PM >> >> >> If that's all the show will ever be, then it would be more economical to >> go out and buy "300" than to subscribe to Showtime. >> >> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in >> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant >> >> http://www.youtube. com/watch? >> v=fQUxw9aUVik<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com >> >> From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:44:00 +0000 >> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good? >> >> >> All hail Spartacus! :) >> >> I just watched the first episode and I have to say that the director that >> shot this must have had 300 on infinite replay when they were making this. >> The fight scenes although realistic looking in action turn to cartoons when >> everything is slowed down to allow the special effect blood to splatter >> makes it laughable. >> >> Has anyone watched the series called Rome? Spartacus ain't it. Spartacus >> is the dumbed down blood and guts version for teen boys that has nudity in >> it. I don't think that when they shot this series that the actor knew that >> they were going to make the serious action into gore porn. >> >> --- In scifino...@yahoogro >> ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com>, >> Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@ ...> wrote: >> > >> > >> > (standing ovation) >> > >> > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in >> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant >> > >> > http://www.youtube. com/watch? >> > v=fQUxw9aUVik<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > To: scifino...@yahoogro >> > ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com> >> >> > From: KeithBJohnson@ ... >> > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:09:14 +0000 >> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Absolutely, I just have an issue with lazy writing on that level unless >> it's intentional. In "Hercules" and "Xena", for example, the anachronistic >> language was intentional and sometimes funny. The god Apollo, for example, >> was portrayed as a magical surfer type, who even said "Dude". But >> "Spartacus", from what i can tell, is trying to be serious drama, so I just >> can't get past such gaffes. >> > I've noticed more and more in recent years that problem in historical >> dramas. I see a lot of them where the characters are speaking idiomatically >> as if they're from modern American. Even if they use the time-appropriate >> words, the way those words are structured into phrases is just off. That >> always irritates me. For example, don't tell me you're giving me a >> well-written drama that takes place in, say, a Puritan village in the 1700s, >> then have a young person ask another "How's it going?" >> > Lazy... >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Mr. Worf" <HelloMahogany@ ...> >> > To: scifino...@yahoogro >> > ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:01:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Nope... they say that it was invented around the 1100s. But there had to >> be a similar word back then. >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ ...> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Was the f-word even being used by the Britons during the time of >> Spartacus? >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker013@ ...> >> > >> > To: "SciFiNoir2" <scifino...@yahoogro >> > ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com> >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:17:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> > >> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Again with you all the way, Keith. THe curse words they're using are >> mostly Anglo-Saxon, something that folks who live in Greece (If I've got the >> geography right) aren't likely to speak. >> > >> > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in >> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant >> > >> > >> > http://www.youtube. com/watch? >> > v=fQUxw9aUVik<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > To: scifino...@yahoogro >> > ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com> >> >> > >> > From: KeithBJohnson@ ... >> > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 04:37:09 +0000 >> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Looking at part of it again, the fight scenes really do border on kinda >> > funny, the "300"-style imitation is so over the top it reminds me more >> > of the hilariously bloody fight scene with the Black Knight in "Monty >> > Python and The Holy Grail". I mean, seriously, the blood is spattering >> > and splatering like red water from a burst balloon. One dude got >> > knocked in the back of the head, and blood sprayed all over it was >> > funny. The showrunners seem to have an almost perverse interest in >> > showing closeups of flesh cut and spread, bodies impaled. Silly, >> > gratuitous, unmoving. >> > >> > Quite a bit of nudity too, including of Lucy Lawless I believe. Bit of >> > a shock that, seeing Xena topless, but much better than seeing the >> > dudes' naked bottoms. :( >> > >> > Also there seems to be quite a bit of anachronistic language. At least, >> > I'm not sure the term "Where the fu** are the Romans?" is accurate for >> > the times. >> > >> > Two showings, and I haven't been able to sit through the whole thing yet >> without laughing or shaking my head at the whole thing. >> > >> > Anyone else? >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Keith Johnson" <keithbjohnson@ ...> >> > To: scifino...@yahoogro >> ups.com<http://us.mc594.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com> >> > >> > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> > Subject: "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" - Any good? >> > >> > Anyone watch the debut of this series? It's showing on both one of the >> Encore and Starz channels. I tried to watch the show, out of curiosity, and >> because Lucy Lawless is one of the stars. But I came in in the middle of a >> battle scene that frankly made me laugh and grown. Lawless in an interview >> I'd seen mentioned the show was modeled in part on "300". But what I saw was >> a bad imitation of "300": the same not-quite-real backgrounds, the now >> recognizable fast-slow-fast movements of the soldiers in battle, blue-grey >> backgrounds whose colors are splashed liberally with the blood flowing like >> wine in battle. Lots of close ups of decapitations, swords cleaving flesh to >> expose nasty cuts. it was all a bit too frenetic and artificial looking for >> me. And I gotta admit that title--"...Blood and Sand" already had me a bit >> leery. >> > >> > Granted, i didn't see anything but the battle. Maybe the actual acting >> is good and it's worth a look? Can anyone give a recommendation? >> > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* >> ********* >> > >> > >> > http://www.starz. com/originals/ >> > spartacus<http://www.starz.com/originals/spartacus> >> > >> > Betrayed >> > by the Romans. Forced into slavery. Reborn as a Gladiator. 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