Mr Worf, you left off what happened after he waded through that first bunch, when he reached the elevator. ;-)
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: [email protected] From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:21:09 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight Yes. There are two good fight scenes in the movie after he is released from captivity. There is one long fight where he takes on all of the henchmen for one of the bosses that he was tracking. It was in a basement and a slow side scroll to it. He only had his fists when he came in but he fought about 20 guys hand to hand. It wasn't martial arts really but more like a style he invented while he was imprisoned. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Keith Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: So "Oldboy" has good fight scenes? I was completely caught off guard at the first fight scene in "Eli". The way it was silhouetted, the quick and brutal nature of it, but the fact that I could follow everything--it was heaven to me in this ADD world in movie direction. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 4:26:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight We end up with ADD style directors or mumblecore as style of direction. The fight scene in Eli reminded me of the fight scene in Oldboy. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Martin Baxter <[email protected]> wrote: Keith, I think you once said that too many of today's movie directors grew up in the Video Music Era, and the Crazy-Cut Technique is all they know. Too many of the Old Guard have either hung up their chairs or are only able to direct every five to ten years, owing to age. It's an era which, IMO, we'll never get back. :-( "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: [email protected] From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:43:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight Some of it may have been the time and money, but I think more of it was director's aesthetic tastes. In watching "The Book of Eli" a couple of weeks ago, I was impressed at how the Hughes brothers had more of an old school take on cinematography. The fight scenes were brief but brutal, and I could see everything very well. They used wide shots, pan-and-zoom, to let me take everything in, without all the crazy quick cuts and multiple angles a lot of other directors use. I really think directors like Scorsese, Redford, Spike Lee, etc., just think it's a better way to tell a story. note that in Britain, Mexico, France, and other countries, there's a lot less of this music video type direction than in American film. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 2:30:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight I think that they had to stick to stagnant angles in older movies because they usually only had one or two cameras running at once, because they couldn't afford more than that. If they wanted multiple angles they would reset the scene then reshoot it. Now they can afford to rent 10 or 20 cameras and set them up at 50 angles and record them all in one take. The thing with big actors is that they don't want to take direction from the director. So some of them believe whatever their point of view is, is more valid than the director's vision. Which I believe is wrong! On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Keith Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: Watching it now. I was just telling my wife jubilantly, "they just don't film movies like this anymore!" Nowadays director would have twenty thousand camera angles, and you'd never be able to follow the action. This thing is fast-paced and exciting as hell, but I can take it all in. Speaking of great car chase scenes, another all-time one is from "Ronin", one of my fav films. And I also love the classic pursuit of Batman's car in "Batman Begins". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" <[email protected]> To: "SciFiNoir2" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2010 9:01:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight I'm there right now, waiting for that chase scene, Keith. "Bonnie and Clyde" I'll be passing on, as it aired just last month. "The French Connection", though, is a must, particularly since I picked up a bit of trivia about Gene Hackman's performance in it. In the scene where he roughs up the suspect, Hackman nearly quit the movie. An ardent liberal, he almost couldn't bring himself to do the scene. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: [email protected] From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:57:57 +0000 Subject: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight http://www.tcm.com/2010/31Days/index.jsp You know what? Forget SyFy Originals. Forget the eleventy-millionth airing of "Caprica". Blow off Lifetime Movies. Turner Classic Movies is airing a great block of films tonight. Starting at 8 pm EST, we have Steve McQueen in "Bullitt", with the man-of-few-words McQueen, and one of the great car chases of all time. That's followed at 10 pm by "The French Connection", with a typically intense Gene Hackman in one of the other great car chases of all time. And then, at midnight, it's "Bonnie and Clyde", Warren Beatty's violent New Hollywood tale of the famous robbers. The movies are part of TCM's "31 Days of Oscar", a month long airing of Oscar-wnning and -nominated films done every year. This is a great time to catch up on some of the best films of all time, from "Casablanca" to "Citizen Kane", from "Some Like it Hot", to "Cabin in the Sky". The good thing about TCM is that in addition to showing Oscar-nominated films, this being Black History Month, they also show a lot of classic Black film dating back to the '20s. Ethel Waters in "Cabin in the Sky" is just one example. It's about the only place I've seen this and many other of those films from that time. 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