I didn't want to give away the whole movie! I gotta leave some sort of
surprise so they have something to look forward to.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Martin Baxter
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> Mr Worf, you left off what happened after he waded through that first
> bunch, when he reached the elevator. ;-)
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:21:09 -0800
>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight
>
>
>  Yes. There are two good fight scenes in the movie after he is released
> from captivity. There is one long fight where he takes on all of the
> henchmen for one of the bosses that he was tracking. It was in a basement
> and a slow side scroll to it. He only had his fists when he came in but he
> fought about 20 guys hand to hand. It wasn't martial arts really but more
> like a style he invented while he was imprisoned.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Keith Johnson 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>
>
> So "Oldboy" has good fight scenes? I was completely caught off guard at the
> first fight scene in "Eli". The way it was silhouetted, the quick and brutal
> nature of it, but the fact that I could follow everything--it was heaven to
> me in this ADD world in movie direction.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mr. Worf" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 4:26:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight
>
>
>  We end up with ADD style directors or mumblecore as style of direction.
> The fight scene in Eli reminded me of the fight scene in Oldboy.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Martin Baxter <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Keith, I think you once said that too many of today's movie directors grew
> up in the Video Music Era, and the Crazy-Cut Technique is all they know. Too
> many of the Old Guard have either hung up their chairs or are only able to
> direct every five to ten years, owing to age. It's an era which, IMO, we'll
> never get back. :-(
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
>  Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:43:35 +0000
>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight
>
>
>
> Some of it may have been the time and money, but I think more of it was
> director's aesthetic tastes. In watching "The Book of Eli" a couple of weeks
> ago, I was impressed at how the Hughes brothers had more of an old school
> take on cinematography. The fight scenes were brief but brutal, and I could
> see everything very well. They used wide shots, pan-and-zoom, to let me take
> everything in, without all the crazy quick cuts and multiple angles a lot of
> other directors use. I really think directors like Scorsese, Redford, Spike
> Lee, etc., just think it's a better way to tell a story. note that in
> Britain, Mexico, France, and other countries, there's a lot less of this
> music video type direction than in American film.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mr. Worf" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 2:30:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight
>
>
>  I think that they had to stick to stagnant angles in older movies because
> they usually only had one or two cameras running at once, because they
> couldn't afford more than that. If they wanted multiple angles they would
> reset the scene then reshoot it.
>
> Now they can afford to rent 10 or 20 cameras and set them up at 50 angles
> and record them all in one take.
>
> The thing with big actors is that they don't want to take direction from
> the director. So some of them believe whatever their point of view is, is
> more valid than the director's vision. Which I believe is wrong!
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Keith Johnson 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
> Watching it now. I was just telling my wife jubilantly, "they just don't
> film movies like this anymore!" Nowadays  director would have twenty
> thousand camera angles, and you'd never be able to follow the action. This
> thing is fast-paced and exciting as hell, but I can take it all in.
>
> Speaking of great car chase scenes, another all-time one is from "Ronin",
> one of my fav films. And I also love the classic pursuit of Batman's car in
> "Batman Begins".
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Baxter" <[email protected]>
> To: "SciFiNoir2" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2010 9:01:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight
>
>
>  I'm there right now, waiting for that chase scene, Keith. "Bonnie and
> Clyde" I'll be passing on, as it aired just last month. "The French
> Connection", though, is a must, particularly since I picked up a bit of
> trivia about Gene Hackman's performance in it. In the scene where he roughs
> up the suspect, Hackman nearly quit the movie. An ardent liberal, he almost
> couldn't bring himself to do the scene.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:57:57 +0000
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Great Action Flicks on TCM Tonight
>
>
>
> http://www.tcm.com/2010/31Days/index.jsp
>
> You know what? Forget SyFy Originals. Forget the eleventy-millionth airing
> of "Caprica". Blow off Lifetime Movies. Turner Classic Movies is airing a
> great block of films tonight. Starting at 8 pm EST, we have Steve McQueen
> in  "Bullitt", with the man-of-few-words McQueen, and one of the great car
> chases of all time. That's followed at 10 pm by "The French Connection",
> with a typically intense Gene Hackman in one of the other great car chases
> of all time. And then, at midnight, it's "Bonnie and Clyde", Warren Beatty's
> violent New Hollywood tale of the famous robbers.
>
> The movies are part of TCM's "31 Days of Oscar", a month long airing of
> Oscar-wnning and -nominated films done every year. This is a great time to
> catch up on some of the best films of all time, from "Casablanca" to
> "Citizen Kane", from "Some Like it Hot", to "Cabin in the Sky".   The good
> thing about TCM is that in addition to showing Oscar-nominated films, this
> being Black History Month, they also show a lot of classic Black film dating
> back to the '20s. Ethel Waters in "Cabin in the Sky" is just one example.
> It's about the only place I've seen this and many other of those films from
> that time.
>
> Gonna be a long fun night!
>
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