He more or less stuck to his guns and offered a "clarification" and not an apology if memory serves me. It wasn't a mea culpa at all.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@...> wrote: > > Crap. Hit Send too soon. > > A few years ago, before George Tiller, the late-term abortion specialist, > was assassinated, Bill-O was regularly calling for him to be murdered, as a > "service to mankind". And he was the first to say that he said nothing wrong > after Tiller was shot down. Outside of his church, if mmemory serves. > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@...>wrote: > > > Bosco, I have no trouble blaming them. They've seen their "constituency" up > > close and personal many a time. They covered the health-care town halls when > > those folks showed up packing, declaring that they "were defending their > > right to keep and bear arms". It only took me five seconds to know that > > these are people a step away from violence, if they feel they aren't going > > to get their way. Faux/Fixed/Fox knows, and fuels, this. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Bosco Bosco <ironpi...@...> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Actually I wouldn't feel comfortable blaming Fox News for crazy man > >> antics. Yeah they're propagandists for all kinds of nonsense but they don't > >> make them put guns in people's hands. It's like blaming heavy metal for > >> teen > >> suicide or hip hop for gang violence. I'm no defender of Fox or it's > >> rampant > >> stupidity and wrecklessness but at some point people make choices. > >> > >> Bosco > >> > >> --- On *Thu, 4/8/10, Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@...>* wrote: > >> > >> > >> From: Martin Baxter <martinbaxt...@...> > >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Accused man's mom blames Fox News for behavior > >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > >> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 11:59 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Of COURSE, all and sundry at Faux/Fixed/Fox will rise up to a lifeform and > >> deny any blame for this, wrapping themselves in Flag and Constitution. > >> > >> Bastiches. > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Mr. Worf <HelloMahogany@ > >> gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=hellomahog...@...> > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://abclocal. go.com/kgo/ story?section= > >>> news/iteam&id=7374140<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/iteam&id=7374140> > >>> Accused man's mom blames Fox News for behavior > >>> Wednesday, April 07, 2010 > >>> [image: Accused man's mom blames Fox News for behavior] > >>> Related Video > >>> All Live Video <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/live> : All > >>> Video<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video> > >>> ยป > >>> [image: Greg Giusti was arrested for making threatening phone calls to > >>> Nancy Pelosi.] [image: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif. speaks > >>> during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington] > >>> > >>> - Accused man's mom blames Fox News for > >>> behavior<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=7374223> > >>> - FBI arrests man for threatening > >>> Pelosi<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=7374228> > >>> > >>> Tags: > >>> nancy pelosi <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/explore?tag=nancy-pelosi>, health > >>> care <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/explore?tag=health-care>, health > >>> insurance <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/explore?tag=health-insurance>, > >>> i-team <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/explore?section=kgo/news/iteam>, dan > >>> noyes <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/explore?columnist=dan-noyes> > >>> > >>> - Comment > >>> Now<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/iteam&id=7374140#comments> > >>> - > >>> Email<http://webapp.abclocal.go.com/formmailer/emailFriend?station=kgo&headline=Accused%20man%27s%20mom%20blames%20Fox%20News%20for%20behavior&URL=/kgo/story%3Fsection%3Dnews%2Fiteam%26id%3D7374140&contentId=7374140&contentType=Article> > >>> - > >>> Print<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/iteam&id=7374140&pt=print> > >>> - Report a > >>> typo<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/feature?section=news&id=7112889> > >>> - > >>> - > >>> - > >>> - > >>> - > >>> - [image: ShareThis via email, AIM, social bookmarking and networking > >>> sites, etc.] > >>> > >>> <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/bio?section=resources/inside_station/newsteam&id=5771710> > >>> Dan > >>> Noyes<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/bio?section=resources/inside_station/newsteam&id=5771710>, > >>> Chief > >>> Investigative Reporter > >>> More: > >>> Bio<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/bio?section=resources/inside_station/newsteam&id=5771710>, > >>> E-mail <http://mc/compose?to=%20dan.no...@...>, > >>> Blog<http://iteamblog.abc7news.com/>, > >>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?id=567930426>, > >>> Twitter <http://twitter.com/dannoyes>, News > >>> Team<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/newsteam> > >>> > >>> SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- Gregory Giusti's 83-year-old mother had not heard > >>> that her son had been arrested, but she told ABC7 he has a history of > >>> mental > >>> problems. She does not think he would be capable of carrying out the > >>> threat; > >>> he has never owned a gun, and she blames Fox News for getting her son > >>> worked > >>> up. > >>> > >>> Giusti was arrested Wednesday afternoon for threatening Speaker of the > >>> House Nancy Pelosi over recent healthcare legislation. > >>> > >>> "Greg frequently gets in with a group of people that have really radical > >>> ideas and that are not consistent with myself or the rest of the family, > >>> which gets him into problems," Eleanor Giusti said. "I say Fox News, or > >>> all > >>> of those that are really radical, and he, that's where he comes from." > >>> > >>> Related Content > >>> > >>> Story: FBI arrests man for threatening > >>> Pelosi<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/national_world&id=7373535> > >>> Giusti, 48, has a long history of encounters with law enforcement. > >>> > >>> In 2004, Giusti was convicted of criminal threats. The San Mateo District > >>> Attorney's office says he was trying to evade the fare on a Caltrain, and > >>> when the conductor tried to kick him off, Giusti started yelling and > >>> threatening the conductor's life. As a result, Giusti was sentenced to one > >>> year in county jail and three years supervised probation. He was also > >>> ordered to undergo mental health counseling. > >>> > >>> There is also a lawsuit filed in February by Hamilton Square Baptist > >>> Church in San Francisco. It says, "Giusti has engaged in and continues to > >>> engage in a campaign of harassment" against people at the church. > >>> > >>> Giusti also has a record of skipping out on his BART fares and causing > >>> disruptions. BART sued him in 1996. > >>> > >>> He also has two convictions in San Francisco for welfare fraud and petty > >>> theft from 1992. > >>> > >>> According to ABC7 legal analyst Dean Johnson, there is a point at which > >>> free speech ends and a threat begins. > >>> > >>> "Communicating a threat with the intent that it be taken seriously is one > >>> of those types of speech that is simply not protected," Johnson said. > >>> "Even > >>> under state law, as well as the federal law that applies here, there are > >>> crimes that are based on threatening another individual, you simply cannot > >>> do that." > >>> > >>> Eleanor Giusti also told ABC7 she talked to her son earlier in the day -- > >>> apparently before the arrest. He asked about his niece and nephew and > >>> acted > >>> as though nothing was going on. > >>> > >>> The FBI told ABC7 Giusti will be booked into San Francisco County Jail to > >>> spend the night, before appearing in federal court Thursday morning. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > >>> Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ > >>> of_darkness/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
