I agree. The problem is, there's a fine line between media and rhetoric being responsible for people's actions, and for them being blameless. That's why there are laws against specifically inciting to riot, and the definition of that is rather fluid at times...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2010 4:26:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Accused man's mom blames Fox News for behavior When I posted this I was thinking the same thing, but after a while I thought about the effects of repetition on someone's mind. If you repeat the same answers over and over again on a variety of shows it can be like hypnotic suggestion. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bosco Bosco < ironpi...@yahoo.com > wrote: Actually I wouldn't feel comfortable blaming Fox News for crazy man antics. Yeah they're propagandists for all kinds of nonsense but they don't make them put guns in people's hands. It's like blaming heavy metal for teen suicide or hip hop for gang violence. I'm no defender of Fox or it's rampant stupidity and wrecklessness but at some point people make choices. Bosco --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Martin Baxter < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > wrote: From: Martin Baxter < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Accused man's mom blames Fox News for behavior To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 11:59 AM Of COURSE, all and sundry at Faux/Fixed/Fox will rise up to a lifeform and deny any blame for this, wrapping themselves in Flag and Constitution. Bastiches. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Mr. Worf < HelloMahogany@ gmail.com > wrote: http://abclocal. go.com/kgo/ story?section= news/iteam&id=7374140 Accused man's mom blames Fox News for behavior Wednesday, April 07, 2010 Accused man's mom blames Fox News for behavior Related Video All Live Video : All Video » Greg Giusti was arrested for making threatening phone calls to Nancy Pelosi.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif. speaks during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington • Accused man's mom blames Fox News for behavior • FBI arrests man for threatening Pelosi Tags: nancy pelosi , health care , health insurance , i-team , dan noyes • Comment Now • Email • Print • Report a typo • • • • • • ShareThis via email, AIM, social bookmarking and networking sites, etc. Dan Noyes , Chief Investigative Reporter More: Bio , E-mail , Blog , Facebook , Twitter , News Team SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- Gregory Giusti's 83-year-old mother had not heard that her son had been arrested, but she told ABC7 he has a history of mental problems. She does not think he would be capable of carrying out the threat; he has never owned a gun, and she blames Fox News for getting her son worked up. Giusti was arrested Wednesday afternoon for threatening Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi over recent healthcare legislation. "Greg frequently gets in with a group of people that have really radical ideas and that are not consistent with myself or the rest of the family, which gets him into problems," Eleanor Giusti said. "I say Fox News, or all of those that are really radical, and he, that's where he comes from." Related Content Story: FBI arrests man for threatening Pelosi Giusti, 48, has a long history of encounters with law enforcement. In 2004, Giusti was convicted of criminal threats. The San Mateo District Attorney's office says he was trying to evade the fare on a Caltrain, and when the conductor tried to kick him off, Giusti started yelling and threatening the conductor's life. As a result, Giusti was sentenced to one year in county jail and three years supervised probation. He was also ordered to undergo mental health counseling. There is also a lawsuit filed in February by Hamilton Square Baptist Church in San Francisco. It says, "Giusti has engaged in and continues to engage in a campaign of harassment" against people at the church. Giusti also has a record of skipping out on his BART fares and causing disruptions. BART sued him in 1996. He also has two convictions in San Francisco for welfare fraud and petty theft from 1992. According to ABC7 legal analyst Dean Johnson, there is a point at which free speech ends and a threat begins. "Communicating a threat with the intent that it be taken seriously is one of those types of speech that is simply not protected," Johnson said. "Even under state law, as well as the federal law that applies here, there are crimes that are based on threatening another individual, you simply cannot do that." Eleanor Giusti also told ABC7 she talked to her son earlier in the day -- apparently before the arrest. He asked about his niece and nephew and acted as though nothing was going on. The FBI told ABC7 Giusti will be booked into San Francisco County Jail to spend the night, before appearing in federal court Thursday morning. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
