What's the Eye of Harmony? The Panopticon? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxt...@gmail.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 3, 2010 6:55:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!
That just may be, Keith. In the past, the Time Lords could grant a Time Lord new sets of regenerations, and some TIme Lords were thousands of years old, never having left Gallifrey and risked the forms of traumatic death that cause regenerations as the Doctor has experienced. Also, there used to be only one Eye of Harmony, beneath the Panopticon on Gallifrey. Now, it's in the TARDIS, with the implication that ALL TARDISes now have one. And, since the Doctor himself is the person who sent the Time Lords into the Void, he might have the power to grant himself a new set. I need to write for this show... On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: Makes sense. One cool thing about this new incarnations thing is that it allows for all facets of a personality to be explored. There can be intellectual Doctors, emotional ones, Doctors that crave adventure, those that are more interested in people, etc. It means that even if you hate an incarnation, it explores an important aspect of the Doctor, and you can always wait for another version--since i assume the limit of twelve incarnations will be lifted. By the way, I was listening to the Slice of SciFi podcast today, and a caller to the show said the limit on the number of incarnations was set by the Time Lord Council. He contends the limit is therefore not intrinsic to the process, but a law they set, and now that the Council is no more, the Doctor isn't restricted in the number of future incarnations. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 3, 2010 12:24:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! No, Keith, there hasn't been a Doctor this aggressive, and I'm looking at that as Matt Smith's spin on the character. I can see it as his inner realization that he's only got one more regeneration, and there's so much evil out there to be smashed. Ten's exit, including his knowing violating the Laws of Time, was, to me, a foreshadowing of that. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: I'm not a Doctor expert like Martin, but don't remember one being so overtly aggressive. Eccleston, when he encountered a lone Dalek, was bitterly cold, equal parts frightened and threatening. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 3, 2010 2:09:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! Yea its like they took all of the good stuff and did a best of season. Maybe he is supposed to be more like a human this time? I don't remember ever seeing the doctor punching someone out before. Do you? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: Yeah, he's young and goofy-looking, but then gets cold or violent at the drop of a hat. Maybe in time the odd swings will simply become this Doctor's character trait? I did raise an eyebrow at the Dalek's coming back so quickly in the new Doctor's tenure. Shouldn't they have saved them for a while? It's kinda like how Star Trek Voyager started using the Borg so much they lost their mystery and menace. Next week though: the Weeping Angels are back!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2010 5:43:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! The doctor is going to shoot someone before the season is over at this rate. He attacked the daeleks with a large wrench last episode. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: Maybe that's his new incarnation's main failing? In the show I mentioned with Queen Elizabeth X, it was his companion that solved the riddle, while he was ready to make do with some of that action you mentioned. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2010 2:29:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! Feels like after Torchwood's mini-series this season of Dr.Who feels tepid at best. I'm not liking the doctor at all. He's a little too quick on the trigger to be violent which isn't something that a 900 year old would do. Maybe he needs to switch to decaf? :) On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Mike Street < streetfor...@gmail.com > wrote: I liked the Queen also but I'm just not excited by any of these episodes. Season's 1-4 where really good and now it's just a bit dull. I'm going back to watch The 5 Doctors again and waiting for season 6. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: What bothered you? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Street" < streetfor...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:54:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! I've decided to sit this season out. Until the writing gets better or they get new Dr. I'm out of the Tartus. The first two episodes where totally horrible. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Adrianne Brennan < adrianne.bren...@gmail.com > wrote: That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's got the wrong team writing for him. On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :( ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street < streetfor...@gmail.com > wrote: I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that good. I don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked Eccleston and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my yet. I also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?! I listened to a "Slice of SciFi" podcast recently about it. The crew there had already seen the first ep, "The Eleventh Hour". Doubters all, they really like the new Doctor. The fear was that he was too young and would be too boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this new Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or Eccleston's portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and reminds them of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at least one of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly serious? (Martin would know). Should be interesting... ***************************************************************************** http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide Original Air Date: April 17, 2010 SYNOPSIS Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the Doctor Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside the world's biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA, followed by the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c. Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour Written by: Steven Moffat Directed by: Adam Smith Original Air Date: April 17, 2010 SYNOPSIS The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes before he can even recover. 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