I think its because they wanted a "feel good" movie all the way through. I dunno. In thinking back on the series, there is something that just doesn't work on a lot of levels for me. There seems to be a general lack of caring about the writing of movies like this. You can almost hear the voice of that stereotyped movie exec chomping on a cigar while he takes a brilliant idea and turns it into garbage.
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: > > > Yeah, the age old problem in America: intelligent writing has no place in > "blockbusters" that kids might see. I don't see why it couldn't have more > complex emotional writing? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:48:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be > Better > > > > I think movies like Transformers was a difficult situation to resolve. > Mainly because they knew that the movie would attract the under 13 set so > they couldn't make it too violent or have complex emotional situations. > (although Japanese anime hasn't had a problem with that, but they also do > not have crazy lawsuits either.) > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Keith Johnson > <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: > >> >> >> The first one is good only for the phenomenal CGI of the robots. It's >> truly amazing. Other than that, the movie is too focused on the humans. >> LeBeouf's character is ultimately the hero, in a way that makes no sense. >> They create some thing called the "Lifespark" that can turn any machine >> (such as a radio or Coke dispenser) into a sentient Transformer. There's no >> mention of the Matrix of Leadership. All the cars are GMs because the studio >> struck a deal, which rankled me. Ebay is referenced a bazillion times >> (another financial deal). >> The Autobots are curiously relegated to support characters, making the >> humans too central. At the end of the movie, Optimus says "you humans are >> truly more than meets the eye", singing *humanity's* praises even though >> that catch phrase should apply to *his* people. >> It was weakly written, changed canon unnecessarily, and had a juvenile >> tone overall. It is only redeemed by the CGI and some of the fight scenes. >> Oh--and the "black" robot (the one that was a "ghetto blaster" in canon) is >> punked like you wouldn't believe. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxt...@gmail.com> >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:50:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] LaBeouf Says Third "Transformers" Movie Will Be >> Better >> >> >> >> Keith, I haven't seen the first one. This isn't much in the way of >> inspiration to invest. LaBoeuf is a good actor. He's gotta be getting better >> offers than this. I HOPE. >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Interesting. I still haven't seen the second one. The bloated action >>> trailers, the long snippets I've seen on TVs at electronic stores, those >>> stereotyped ghetto robots--all kept me away from the sequel. Didn't help I >>> wasn't too impressed with the first flick past the FX. The way the >>> Transformers were minimized in favor of the stupid humans didn't appeal to >>> me, nor did the change to lore (the "Lifespark"? Megatron the source for >>> most of our tech? Blah!) If LeBeouf himself is saying the second one was >>> worse? I may never see it... >>> >>> ********************* >>> LaBeouf promises better 'Transformers' next time >>> By DAVID GERMAIN >>> >>> The Associated Press >>> >>> >>> CANNES, France — Shia LaBeouf says the second "Transformers" movie got >>> too big for its own good — but the third one brings the heart back to the >>> franchise. >>> LaBeouf, who starts work on the next "Transformers" sequel Tuesday, said >>> the third installment will be the best one yet. The new script restores a >>> human element that got lost in the second movie, LaBeouf said. >>> >>> >>> "When I saw the second movie, I wasn't impressed with what we did," >>> LaBeouf said in an interview Thursday at the Cannes Film Festival, where his >>> finance drama "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps" is premiering. "There were >>> some really wild stunts in it, but the heart was gone." >>> >>> >>> "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" was a runaway commercial success >>> but was drubbed by critics. >>> >>> Michael Bay returns for the third time as director of the science-fiction >>> franchise, which centers on dueling races of giant robots that bring their >>> war to Earth. The next movie will have what the last one lacked — a sense of >>> human consequences, LaBeouf said. >>> >>> >>> On the second movie, "we got lost. We tried to get bigger. It's what >>> happens to sequels. It's like, how do you top the first one? You've got to >>> go bigger," LaBeouf said. "Mike went so big that it became too big, and I >>> think you lost the anchor of the movie. ... You lost a bit of the >>> relationships. Unless you have those relationships, then the movie doesn't >>> matter. Then it's just a bunch of robots fighting each other." >>> >>> With "Transformers 3," the toll of the robot war will be grave for our >>> planet, LaBeouf said. >>> >>> >>> "There's going to be a lot of death, human death. This time, they're >>> targeting humans," LaBeouf said. "It's going to be the craziest action movie >>> ever made, or we failed." >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell >> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 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