Yeah, but the people behind remakes are rarely bringing insight, intelligence, or even knowledge of the source material to the equation. More often than not, it's about capitalizing on a name, and figuring that upping the FX/action/nudity/gore factor is all that's needed.
----- Original Message ----- From: "B Smith" <daikaij...@yahoo.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 4:22:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Columbia Valedictorian steals Patton Oswald's Star Trek Routine The sad thing is a remake of The Day The Earth Stood Still could have worked because the original movie diverges from the source material in some significant ways. They could have followed John Carpenter's example when he redid The Thing. He went back to the original material and made his remake stand on it's own. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > I hear you on remakes. I'm okay with remakes if they have something new to > contribute or say: say, bringing in people of color or women and updating > some of the themes a bit...maybe bringing better effects for a scifi saga > (when FX are part of the appeal). But often it's just junk. "The Day the > Earth Stood still" is an example of an unecessary remake that didn't add > anything to the discussion started by the original. The "A-Team" I'm fine > with because it was a TV series. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B Smith" <daikaij...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 9:59:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Columbia Valedictorian steals Patton Oswald's Star > Trek Routine > > > > > > > Keith, > I think you and I are pretty close in age and it seems amazing that there are > grown ups that have no frame of reference for some pop culture that we take > for granted. One of my young co-workers is forever my acolyte because I > turned him on to The Godfather and The Usual Suspects. > > I finally put aside my rage at things like Robocop, A Nightmare on Elm > Street, Escape From New York, etc. being remade because there is a generation > out there that have never seen the originals. It used to bug me but I imagine > folks my father's age probably scoffed when their childhood movies like The > Thing were remade during my teenage years. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > Agreed, stealing a whole joke like that is an issue. If it were a simple > > one-liner, like your "I love it when a plan comes together", that's one > > thing. But a bit that has some meat to it? Naw, you have to cite the > > source. > > > > How the heck could you not have known that quote comes from "The A-Team"? > > :) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kelwyn" <ravenadal@> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:49:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Columbia Valedictorian steals Patton Oswald's > > Star Trek Routine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a simple fix: the valedictorian could have simply said "the comedian > > Patton Oswald tells a story that I believe is apropos here -" > > I guarantee he would gotten the same life from friends and families that > > had not heard the joke yet. > > > > I admit I don't always site the source. I have been saying "I love when a > > plan comes together" for years without knowing that catchphrase is from > > "The A-Team." But I use this in casual conversation which has different > > rules from formal speeches. > > > > My other favorite quote is "No matter where you go, there you are!" which I > > always attribute to the movie "Buckeroo Banzai" (which some say Buckeroo > > stole from Confucius). > > > > ~rave! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter <martinbaxter7@> wrote: > > > > > > Call me perplexed, but... don't we all, in a very real sense, steal > > > comedy > > > bits as we go through life? Often, I use an expression, when I'm > > > venturing > > > into dark humor, "I'm sick... I need help." I swiped that from a comedy > > > show > > > that aired late nights back in the 90s. The name of the show escapes me, > > > but > > > I remember that it was a Springer-esque parody. > > > > > > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Kelwyn <ravenadal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gothamist.com/2010/05/25/columbia_valedictorian_stole_patton.php > > > > > > > > And in reporting all this, Columbia University student-run blog "The > > > > Bwog" > > > > had this piece of advice for fellow students: "If you're going to steal > > > > comedy bits, don't steal from living comedians who use the Internet a > > > > lot. > > > > Steal from Milton Berle, he never tweets!" > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OqBMTMb3dE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody > > > hell > > > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > >
