That sounds like a very interesting comic. By Static, do you mean Static Shock?
Is Emilo Estevez and Charlie Sheen guilty of this as well? On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: > > > Yeah, I ran into that growing up in Texas. I knew people with last names > like "Leal", that they pronounced "leel", or "GAR-cee-ah" instead of the > proper "gar-CEE-ah". It always saddens me, coming as I do from people who > know next to nothing about our roots in teh Motherland. I just can't > understand how people can be so comfortable letting that part of their > heritage go. I guess it's easier for many ethnic groups whose looks are > deemed more acceptable by the masses. And I have to acknowledge that it can > be hard fighting the pressures of a society that wants people so often to > just be "American", without the cultural antecedents many of us put in front > of that word. I have often thanked God for being black and *not* be able to > easily cast off my roots and just blend into the mainstream. The person I am > would be horrified at the person I could be in other circumstances. > > I've stated this here before, but there's a great issue of the old Static > comic in which Virgil has an argument with his Jewish friend Frieda about a > racial issue. Each person is really hurt and disturbed by the other's > seeming lack of understanding about his/her view. Later that day, Virgil's > friend is talking about it with her father, wondering why he was being so > angry and nearly militant. I think she felt Virgil implied she was a sellout > for hanging with some whites he felt had issues with blacks. Her father > tells her that as Jews, they have the option of blending into white society > more easily than the dark-skinned Virgil. Not that they necessarily would, > but the option was there. Virgil, he explained, could never forget he was > black, and as such he had to learn to deal with a world in which he would > always be an outsider in some quarters. As such, black people weren't so > much angry, just bearing a greater burden, were less willing to give up > their cultural roots, and in many ways had to be possessed of a stronger > sense of self in a world where they didn't completely blend. They never > forget who they are or where to come from, he said. "I wonder", her dad > mused, "if we don't sometimes envy them for that". > > At the same time, Virgil is puzzling over what he sees as his friend's lack > of understanding his feelings. His dad tells him to understand that as a > Jewish person, his friend has options that Virgil didn't have. If she chose, > she could move further into assimilation in the white world than Virgil ever > could. So the acceptance she felt was normal, and she didn't see or sense > the barriers Virgil had to fight, didn't even see perhaps the subtle racism > he endured, and didn't see her actions as joining an enemy camp the way > Virgil did. His dad explains that Frieda wasn't being insensitive, she just > didn't see the world the way Virgil did. She could, he said, chose to live > in ways where her ethnicity and culture and history weren't always front and > center, where she didn't feel like an outsider, where she could be just like > everyone else. "I wonder", he dad mused, "if we don't sometimes envy them > for that". > > I think about that storyline a lot... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 3:36:30 PM > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Relatives of Harry Potter actress charged in > attack > > > > That happens a lot in California. For some people, the less they are > connected to their heritage the better. You wouldn't know that they were > Mexican or from Latin America unless you knew their last name. > > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Keith Johnson > <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: > >> >> >> I knew a Mexican guy who was lighter skinned, but not hung up on color. He >> had one parent that was dark and looked very Native, and one parent that was >> very light and looked Spanish. He went out on a date with a very dark >> Mexican girl who everyone agreed was gorgeous. But the darker parent had a >> fit, and wasn't happy until he went out with a damn-near-white-looking >> Mexican girl who was deemed more acceptable. Thing was, as was very common, >> this light-skinned girl didn't date Mexican guys often, and barely >> acknowledged she was Mexican herself. That date therefore was a one time >> thing, and she went back to dating her beloved white dudes. i'm sure she >> married a white guy and is raising her kids with little to no knowledge of >> their heritage. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 2:22:29 AM >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Relatives of Harry Potter actress charged in >> attack >> >> >> >> That reminded me of something a friend told me about. She was from central >> America then moved to Mexico. She was a beauty queen winner in Mexico and >> had multiple degrees but she still had problems in Mexico because they >> wanted fairer skinned women there. In Mexico the lighter skinned, blond hair >> blue eyed Mexicans are the ones with power. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Keith Johnson >> <keithbjohn...@comcast.net>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> It's an issue. Notice at the overwhelming number of stars on Univision >>> and stuff, and how they all look more Spanish, with women often dying their >>> hair lighter colors. The darker Latinoes aren't usually played up as stars >>> or love interests, unless it's the man. Darker women are rare to be seen. >>> And don't even hope for Latinos who have a more obvious Native look to them >>> to be anything but servants or soldiers... >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:45:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Relatives of Harry Potter actress charged in >>> attack >>> >>> >>> >>> Yea I noticed that the biggest Indian stars are fair skinned and have >>> slightly European looks. That includes Pakistani movie stars as well. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Keith Johnson < >>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> True dat, of course there's the whole dark-skinned prejudice in many >>>> countries where the populace isn't African, such as in India, where dark >>>> skinned women aren't celebrated as much as light skinned ones. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 3:12:27 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Relatives of Harry Potter actress charged in >>>> attack >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There are black middle easterners. That is silly but WE do get crap from >>>> all other races. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Keith Johnson < >>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, you see it a lot. Here in the States, there are still a lot of >>>>> people from Asian and Middle Eastern countries who freak if their children >>>>> date black people, religious beliefs notwithstanding. (white's okay in >>>>> many cases). Here in Atlanta, a trail was just concluded last year in >>>>> which >>>>> an Indian man was convicted for the murder-for-hire killing of his black >>>>> daughter-in-law. The dude hired two guys (who were black, ironically) to >>>>> attack his daughter in law and murder her. They did so by cutting her >>>>> throat--with her young daughter in the room watching! Buddy did it because >>>>> the thought of his son married to a black woman was intolerable. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2010 2:34:05 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Relatives of Harry Potter actress charged in >>>>> attack >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It is sad. She is a very beautiful girl. The problem is fairly common >>>>> in the UK where "fundamentalist" muslims old world ways meet up with the >>>>> modern world. In their eyes they have the right to kill her if she >>>>> embarrasses the family by having premarital sex, or going on a date >>>>> without >>>>> a chaperon or by breaking a few other rules. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson < >>>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, this is sad, but not atypical in certain cultures and parts of >>>>>> the world, sadly... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ******************************** >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/02/england.harry.potter.attack/index.html?hpt=Mid >>>>>> >>>>>> *London, England (CNN)* -- The father and brother of a Harry Potter >>>>>> actress will appear in court later this month in Manchester, England, on >>>>>> charges of threatening to kill the young star, prosecutors said Friday. >>>>>> >>>>>> Abdul Azad, 54, and his son Ashraf, 28, are accused of attacking >>>>>> actress Afshan Azad earlier this month because of her relationship with a >>>>>> Hindu man, a spokesman for the Crown Prosecution Service said. The >>>>>> family is >>>>>> Muslim. >>>>>> >>>>>> The father and brother appeared at Manchester Magistrate's Court on >>>>>> Wednesday and were released on conditional bail, said the spokesman, who >>>>>> could not be named in line with policy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bail conditions include a curfew and ban on traveling to London, the >>>>>> Manchester Evening News reported. >>>>>> >>>>>> Afshan Azad, reported to be 22, has appeared in four Harry Potter >>>>>> films as Padma Patil, a classmate of the boy wizard and twin sister of >>>>>> Parvati Patil. >>>>>> >>>>>> The alleged attack happened May 21. The father and brother are charged >>>>>> with threatening to kill the actress, and her brother is also charged >>>>>> with >>>>>> assault, the prosecutors' spokesman said. >>>>>> >>>>>> Afshan Azad had never acted before she was cast in the movies, and >>>>>> admitted she only went to the auditions with her friends "for a bit of >>>>>> fun," >>>>>> the Manchester Evening News reported. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>>> Mahogany at: >>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>> Mahogany at: >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>> Mahogany at: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 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