I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. 
Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he 
was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the 
weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul 
who worked very well as Banner in the series. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick 






I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does not 
have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John Cryer 
would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. 


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who looks 
and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for Banner. 
Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity was a bit 
too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I think Phoenix 
would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the "puny Banner" we 
need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and notoriety be hanged! 
That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. 

Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny brother 
on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the *look* 
you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never seen the 
sun or the inside of a gym. 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryle Lockhart" < dar...@darylelockhart.com > 

So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is both 
awesome and frightening at the same time to me. 

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On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: 



Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds 


Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT 







Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's "The 
Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. 

Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in a 
statement to HitFix . 

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"We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title 
role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. "Our decision is 
definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need 
for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other 
talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive working as 
part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, 
and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a name actor who 
fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the iconic role in the 
coming weeks." 

The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert 
Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris Evans ("Captain 
America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett Johansson 
(" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their superhero 
roles in team-up film "The Avengers." 

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A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it 
"purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been in discussions 
to return to the role. 

"This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully 
misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light," the 
rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and 
said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers.' He 
told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the 
cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. When I said that 
Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed 
that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to discuss the project. 
Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which 
Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble 
cast." 

However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. 

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"Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film and both 
sides started negotiating in good faith," he told Hitfix. "This past Wednesday, 
after several weeks of civil, uncontentious discussions, but before we had come 
to terms on a deal, a representative from Marvel called to say they had decided 
to go in another direction with the part. This seemed to us to be a financial 
decision but, whatever the case, it is completely their prerogative, and we 
accepted their decision with no hard feelings... We know a lot of fans have 
voiced their public disappointment with this result, but this is no excuse for 
Feige's mean spirited, accusatory comments. Counter to what Kevin implies here, 
Edward was looking forward to the opportunity to work with Joss and the other 
actors in the Avengers cast, many of whom are personal friends of his. Feige's 
statement is unprofessional, disingenuous and clearly defamatory. Mr. Norton 
talent, tireless work ethic and professional integrity deserve more respect, 
and so do Marvel's fans." 

Norton played the role of Bruce Banner and his alter-ego, the Incredible Hulk , 
in 2008's " The Incredible Hulk ," a reboot/follow-up to 2003's "The Hulk ," 
which starred Eric Bana in the title role. Reports of a feud between the actor 
and the studio emerged along with the film, however, with Norton finally 
issuing a statement to Entertainment Weekly to address the rumors. 

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"Every good movie gets forged through collaboration, and different ideas among 
people who are all committed and respect the validity of each other's opinions 
is the heart of filmmaking," he told the mag in April 2008. "Regrettably, our 
healthy process, which is and should be a private matter, was misrepresented 
publicly as a 'dispute,' seized on by people looking for a good story, and has 
been distorted to such a degree that it risks distracting from the film 
itself." 

With Marvel hosting panels at the San Diego Comic-Con International later this 
month, news on who will replace Norton - and perhaps further casting 
information - seems likely to emerge in the weeks to come. 
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