I *really* don't see Spade! Next you'll be recommending Rob Schneider or 
(shudder!) Paulie Shore! :( 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@yahoo.com> 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:10:58 AM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick 






Going with a comic actor is not a bad idea. Bixby was known primarily as a 
comic actor when he became David Bruce Banner. Ditto for Michael Keaton when he 
became the Batman. When you mentioned Jon Cryer my brain went even further out 
on a limb and thought David Spade. 

(So sue me). 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: 
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> I've never seen Cryer do drama, just offered up his physical characteristics. 
> Then again, Bill Bixby was a handsome man who wasn't physically frail, but he 
> was an effective David Banner because of his acting ability. He wasn't the 
> weakling of Banner in the comics, but he was a very soft-spoken, gentle soul 
> who worked very well as Banner in the series. 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:15:17 PM 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick 
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> I agree, They need an Ed Begley Jr. type actor. Basically someone that does 
> not have that strong physical look and more like a doctor. I don't think John 
> Cryer would be able to pull off the transformation scenes. 
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> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 
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> They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor who 
> looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for 
> Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity 
> was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I 
> think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the 
> "puny Banner" we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and 
> notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. 
> 
> Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny 
> brother on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's the 
> *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's never 
> seen the sun or the inside of a gym. 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Daryle Lockhart" < dar...@... > 
> 
> So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which is 
> both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. 
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> On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: 
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> Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep Responds 
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> Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT 
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> Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in 2012's 
> "The Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday. 
> 
> Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the decision in 
> a statement to HitFix . 
> 
> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton 
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> "We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the title 
> role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. "Our decision 
> is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the 
> need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our 
> other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players who thrive 
> working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H, Chris E, 
> Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to announce a 
> name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate about the 
> iconic role in the coming weeks." 
> 
> The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars Robert 
> Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris Evans ("Captain 
> America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), Scarlett 
> Johansson (" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected to reprise their 
> superhero roles in team-up film "The Avengers." 
> 
> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From ‘ The Incredible Hulk ’ 
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> A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, calling it 
> "purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been in 
> discussions to return to the role. 
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> "This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully 
> misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light," 
> the rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me 
> and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The 
> Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with 
> the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention. 
> When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very 
> excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to 
> discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by 
> Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of 
> being a part of the ensemble cast." 
> 
> However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. 
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> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi & Beyond ! 
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> "Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film and both 
> sides started negotiating in good faith," he told Hitfix. "This past 
> Wednesday, after several weeks of civil, uncontentious discussions, but 
> before we had come to terms on a deal, a representative from Marvel called to 
> say they had decided to go in another direction with the part. This seemed to 
> us to be a financial decision but, whatever the case, it is completely their 
> prerogative, and we accepted their decision with no hard feelings... We know 
> a lot of fans have voiced their public disappointment with this result, but 
> this is no excuse for Feige's mean spirited, accusatory comments. Counter to 
> what Kevin implies here, Edward was looking forward to the opportunity to 
> work with Joss and the other actors in the Avengers cast, many of whom are 
> personal friends of his. Feige's statement is unprofessional, disingenuous 
> and clearly defamatory. Mr. Norton talent, tireless work ethic and 
> professional integrity deserve more respect, and so do Marvel's fans." 
> 
> Norton played the role of Bruce Banner and his alter-ego, the Incredible Hulk 
> , in 2008's " The Incredible Hulk ," a reboot/follow-up to 2003's "The Hulk 
> ," which starred Eric Bana in the title role. Reports of a feud between the 
> actor and the studio emerged along with the film, however, with Norton 
> finally issuing a statement to Entertainment Weekly to address the rumors. 
> 
> VIEW THE PHOTOS: Spectacular Superheroes 
> 
> "Every good movie gets forged through collaboration, and different ideas 
> among people who are all committed and respect the validity of each other's 
> opinions is the heart of filmmaking," he told the mag in April 2008. 
> "Regrettably, our healthy process, which is and should be a private matter, 
> was misrepresented publicly as a 'dispute,' seized on by people looking for a 
> good story, and has been distorted to such a degree that it risks distracting 
> from the film itself." 
> 
> With Marvel hosting panels at the San Diego Comic-Con International later 
> this month, news on who will replace Norton - and perhaps further casting 
> information - seems likely to emerge in the weeks to come. 
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