<<It is part of the Patternist series, isn't it?  And wasn't it like 
her fourth or fifth novel?

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Addams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Again, I agree with you totally and felt that Survivor
> was an attempt to get published at an early stage in
> Butler's career. It could have spawned a series; but,
> it was a bit thin on character development and, as
> later works showed, not her forte (off world fiction).
> 
> --- akaeze02155 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Well, maybe Oprah _did_, but OEB shot her down? I
> > know Oprah must have
> > read the book because OEB recorded an "Ah ha..."
> > moment for the O
> > show. And we all know that Oprah reads everyone who
> > appears on her
> > show. Though I love Oprah, I'd like to see _K_
> > remain a novel and only
> > a novel for a bit longer. I'd LOVE to see more
> > people turned on to
> > reading _K_ and the rest of OEB's works. Especially
> > high school
> > students. One of the wonderful things about OEB is
> > that she was a
> > consummate researcher. _Kindred_ should be studied
> > in hschool not only
> > for its creativity and its story, but for its
> > scholarship.
> > 
> > As for _Survivor_, it is a curious little novel,
> > isn't it? It seems
> > more like an attempt at a first draft than a
> > finished novel and I
> > wonder why it was ever published to begin with. The
> > story seems to
> > have taken over, taken on a life of its own. Perhaps
> > this is why OEB
> > didn't like it. As I read it, I kept waiting for _S_
> > to link back to
> > the main Patternist story and this never really
> > happened. The issues
> > and themes are there, but there is only a cursory
> > "explanation"
> > injected some chapters in that provides the reader
> > with a superficial
> > background, nothing more. It's as if _S_ constitutes
> > the beginning of
> > a new series, not the culmination of one. But it's
> > an intriguing look
> > into OEB's writing process. I wonder if OEB kept a
> > journal. I would
> > love to see what she wrote about _S_ while she was
> > struggling with the
> > story.
> > 
> > _Clay's Ark_ is slight as well and could have
> > benefitted from an
> > astute editor. Ultimately though, even in it's final
> > form, _CA_ is a
> > much more successful "book" than _Survivor_.
> > 
> > anor 
> > 
> > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Addams
> > <addamsrd4ever@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree with all of your points. And I never felt
> > that
> > > Kindred fit easily into the SCIfi or Specfic
> > > categories. I am surprised that Oprah hasn't tried
> > to
> > > produce it given her penchant for interracial
> > themes
> > > and magical realism.
> > > 
> > ...snip!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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