Dear Associates:
  I am certainly not on a par with J. Wright or R. Baldwin, or virtually any of 
the H. Renaissance writers. As Jesse Miller, my personality leaves ever so much 
to be desired, but I am Black, and I am published (in paper books) Damon 
Knight’s Orbit series, Analog Magazine, and others. I’ve been nominated for SF 
awards, I am writing frequently here today, yet people log on here and say, 
"Where are we?" Etc. I mean to ask, am I so bad as to be virtual chopped liver 
up in here? :)
  Very respectfully
  jivajiva (President Club Services)
  

Chris Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          (I might add Richard Wright, Langston Hughes, Amiri Baraka, Zora 
Neale Hurston, early Chester Himes, Tony Cade Bambara, Robert Hayden, 
Gwendolyn Brooks, John Edgar Wideman, Edward Jones, some Walter 
Moseley, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some and there are people who 
can add many more 

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I consider the following black authors "serious": Toni Morrison, 
> Alice Walker, Ralph Ellison (the gold standard), Ishmael Reed.
> 
> --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "sancochojo" <mccartjf@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > What do you mean by "serious" writers?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <ravenadal@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would say the difference is that the white "serious" writer 
can 
> > > still get published. I read literary magazines and the NY 
Times 
> and 
> > > Chicago Tribune Litery supplements. White serious authors get 
> > > published and reviewed every week. Not so for black serious 
> > > authors. Black agents won't even represent serious black 
authors 
> > > because it ain't nothing but a heart ache for them and their 
> > > clients. Literary agent Marie Brown is a trooper and I know 
she 
> > > tries, but it is a grind and she is a business woman, first and 
> > > foremost. Most of her contemporaries don't even try.
> > > 
> > > ~(no)rave!
> > > 
> > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" 
> <Frofidemus@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > (The great African American author is out there. He and She 
> are 
> > > just 
> > > > like the great White American author, nobody is reading them.
> > > > 
> > > > I hate it when people try to act like black folks are doing 
> > > something 
> > > > that white folks are not. A majority of WHITE adults in this 
> > > country 
> > > > did not read even one book last year.
> > > > 
> > > > Those that are reading are reading trash. Don't tell me you 
> equate 
> > > > Dean L. Koontz and J.K. Rowling with Hemingway, Mailer, 
> > > Shakespeare, 
> > > > et al.
> > > > 
> > > > This is sour grapes.
> > > > 
> > > > When you set out to write literary fiction you resign 
yourself 
> to 
> > > > obscurity. If the literary authors are so damn good they 
will 
> > > write 
> > > > something that will put the so called trashy authors to shame 
> and 
> > > > outsell them.
> > > > 
> > > > But they can't, can they?)
> > > > 
> > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella 
> (formerly 
> > > > Tracey L. Minor)" <tdlists@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: What Happen to the Great African American 
> Author?
> > > > > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:25:55 -0500
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <soulive-
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What Happen to the Great
> > > > > African American Author?
> > > > > by LaShelle Turner 
> > > > > <http://www.thesop.org/html/writers.php?writer=turner> 
Posted 
> > > > October 
> > > > > 12, 2007
> > > > > 
> > > > > Something is inherently wrong with the publishing industry 
> > > > > <http://www.thesop.org/article.php?id=7762#> when former 
hip 
> hop 
> > > > video 
> > > > > star, Karrine Steffans, is the most interviewed and talked 
> about 
> > > > African 
> > > > > American author this year.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



         

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