I am certainly not on a par with R. Wright or J. Baldwin, or 
virtually any of the H. Renaissance writers.  As Jesse Miller, my 
personality leaves ever so much to be desired, but I am Black, and I 
am published (in paper books) Damon Knight's Orbit series, Analog 
Magazine, and others.  I've been nominated for SF awards, I am 
writing frequently here today, yet people log on here and say, "Where 
are we?"  Etc.  I mean to ask, am I so bad as to be virtual chopped 
liver up in here? :)
See:
http://www.jivagoswamidasa.com/interest.htm
Very respectfully
jivajiva (President Club Services)

--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> (I might add Richard Wright, Langston Hughes, Amiri Baraka, Zora 
> Neale Hurston, early Chester Himes, Tony Cade Bambara, Robert 
Hayden, 
> Gwendolyn Brooks, John Edgar Wideman, Edward Jones, some Walter 
> Moseley, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some and there are people who 
> can add many more 
> 
> --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <ravenadal@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I consider the following black authors "serious": Toni Morrison, 
> > Alice Walker, Ralph Ellison (the gold standard), Ishmael Reed.
> > 
> > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "sancochojo" <mccartjf@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What do you mean by "serious" writers?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <ravenadal@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would say the difference is that the white "serious" writer 
> can 
> > > > still get published.  I read literary magazines and the NY 
> Times 
> > and 
> > > > Chicago Tribune Litery supplements.  White serious authors 
get 
> > > > published and reviewed every week.  Not so for black serious 
> > > > authors.  Black agents won't even represent serious black 
> authors 
> > > > because it ain't nothing but a heart ache for them and their 
> > > > clients.  Literary agent Marie Brown is a trooper and I know 
> she 
> > > > tries, but it is a grind and she is a business woman, first 
and 
> > > > foremost.  Most of her contemporaries don't even try.
> > > > 
> > > > ~(no)rave!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" 
> > <Frofidemus@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > (The great African American author is out there.  He and 
She 
> > are 
> > > > just 
> > > > > like the great White American author, nobody is reading 
them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hate it when people try to act like black folks are doing 
> > > > something 
> > > > > that white folks are not.  A majority of WHITE adults in 
this 
> > > > country 
> > > > > did not read even one book last year.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Those that are reading are reading trash.  Don't tell me 
you 
> > equate 
> > > > > Dean L. Koontz and J.K. Rowling with Hemingway, Mailer, 
> > > > Shakespeare, 
> > > > > et al.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is sour grapes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When you set out to write literary fiction you resign 
> yourself 
> > to 
> > > > > obscurity.  If the literary authors are so damn good they 
> will 
> > > > write 
> > > > > something that will put the so called trashy authors to 
shame 
> > and 
> > > > > outsell them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But they can't, can they?)
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella 
> > (formerly 
> > > > > Tracey L. Minor)" <tdlists@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > Subject:    What Happen to the Great African American 
> > Author?
> > > > > > Date:       Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:25:55 -0500
> > > > > > To:         [EMAIL PROTECTED] <soulive-
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What Happen to the Great
> > > > > > African American Author?
> > > > > > by LaShelle Turner 
> > > > > > <http://www.thesop.org/html/writers.php?writer=turner> 
> Posted 
> > > > > October 
> > > > > > 12, 2007
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Something is inherently wrong with the publishing 
industry 
> > > > > > <http://www.thesop.org/article.php?id=7762#> when former 
> hip 
> > hop 
> > > > > video 
> > > > > > star, Karrine Steffans, is the most interviewed and 
talked 
> > about 
> > > > > African 
> > > > > > American author this year.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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