I am certainly not on a par with R. Wright or J. Baldwin, or virtually any of the H. Renaissance writers. As Jesse Miller, my personality leaves ever so much to be desired, but I am Black, and I am published (in paper books) Damon Knight's Orbit series, Analog Magazine, and others. I've been nominated for SF awards, I am writing frequently here today, yet people log on here and say, "Where are we?" Etc. I mean to ask, am I so bad as to be virtual chopped liver up in here? :) See: http://www.jivagoswamidasa.com/interest.htm Very respectfully jivajiva (President Club Services)
--- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (I might add Richard Wright, Langston Hughes, Amiri Baraka, Zora > Neale Hurston, early Chester Himes, Tony Cade Bambara, Robert Hayden, > Gwendolyn Brooks, John Edgar Wideman, Edward Jones, some Walter > Moseley, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some and there are people who > can add many more > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <ravenadal@> > wrote: > > > > I consider the following black authors "serious": Toni Morrison, > > Alice Walker, Ralph Ellison (the gold standard), Ishmael Reed. > > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "sancochojo" <mccartjf@> > > wrote: > > > > > > What do you mean by "serious" writers? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" <ravenadal@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I would say the difference is that the white "serious" writer > can > > > > still get published. I read literary magazines and the NY > Times > > and > > > > Chicago Tribune Litery supplements. White serious authors get > > > > published and reviewed every week. Not so for black serious > > > > authors. Black agents won't even represent serious black > authors > > > > because it ain't nothing but a heart ache for them and their > > > > clients. Literary agent Marie Brown is a trooper and I know > she > > > > tries, but it is a grind and she is a business woman, first and > > > > foremost. Most of her contemporaries don't even try. > > > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" > > <Frofidemus@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > (The great African American author is out there. He and She > > are > > > > just > > > > > like the great White American author, nobody is reading them. > > > > > > > > > > I hate it when people try to act like black folks are doing > > > > something > > > > > that white folks are not. A majority of WHITE adults in this > > > > country > > > > > did not read even one book last year. > > > > > > > > > > Those that are reading are reading trash. Don't tell me you > > equate > > > > > Dean L. Koontz and J.K. Rowling with Hemingway, Mailer, > > > > Shakespeare, > > > > > et al. > > > > > > > > > > This is sour grapes. > > > > > > > > > > When you set out to write literary fiction you resign > yourself > > to > > > > > obscurity. If the literary authors are so damn good they > will > > > > write > > > > > something that will put the so called trashy authors to shame > > and > > > > > outsell them. > > > > > > > > > > But they can't, can they?) > > > > > > > > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella > > (formerly > > > > > Tracey L. Minor)" <tdlists@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > > > Subject: What Happen to the Great African American > > Author? > > > > > > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:25:55 -0500 > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <soulive- > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What Happen to the Great > > > > > > African American Author? > > > > > > by LaShelle Turner > > > > > > <http://www.thesop.org/html/writers.php?writer=turner> > Posted > > > > > October > > > > > > 12, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > Something is inherently wrong with the publishing industry > > > > > > <http://www.thesop.org/article.php?id=7762#> when former > hip > > hop > > > > > video > > > > > > star, Karrine Steffans, is the most interviewed and talked > > about > > > > > African > > > > > > American author this year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >